Bishop Vs. HS mule + f/p or i/l Mage

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    Hey guys, I started playing this game with my friend, I chose to main a DrK while he made a priest, while I had an easier time leveling early levels than him, after we hit 4th job, he was able to sell leech right away and make a good amount of money.
    This made me want to make a leecher as well.

    I have some funds at my disposal for the mage(about 3b), and my question is:

    1. Is it better to just make 1 bishop and main it? Or make a level 81 HS mule and have a F/P mage attacker?

    2. If making another attacker is the way to go, i/l or f/p and why?


    The reason I'm asking this question is because I'm aware i/l and f/p mages do more damage than a bishop along with elewand elemental damage boosts, which would help to 1 hit leeching spots such as ulu1/2 and petris easier than a bishop.

    I know there are benefits to maining just a bishop as well, but I need someone to tell me if the pros outweigh the cons, or just which choice is better in general.

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    If you just want to get meso fast and leech then archmage, it's a lot cheaper with cheap books and you don't need much magic to 1 hit stuff.
    You'd need to spend several billions of a bishop books/gear to 1 hit stuff.
    Also nobody really invites archmages to bosses usually so they are mostly just used for leech and farming stuff



    If you want to actually play the char and lvl it/ boss with it then bishop. It can have an active rule in zak/ht (especially ht) and you can bring it to hs you in every boss run (unlike a low lvl mule that can't res and can't tank high damage bosses)

    Bishops can also leech low lvl chars while fp/il can only leech ulu 2 and above due to the hs mule leeching exp.
     
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    Thank you for the reply, I have already chosen to make a f/p mage due to the fact that they are very strong with elewand5 and lesser amounts of funding, I figured i could also use it to leech low levels if i just cced on the hs mule everytime I hsed. Though it is more work, it should be doable
     
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    I think you can make both together, it's not that hard.

    So when you reach lv130+, ur arch mage can sell leech at Ulu, and your bs can be your main hs mule in boss runs, makes it easier for you to find attackers at low levels.

    When your bishop reach lv150s, you can duo mage at ulu1 to earn a decent amount of exp and meso.

    And Arch mage doesn't even cost you any fund other than getting an elemental wand. Skillbooks are super cheap. And you dont need any equipments to one hit ulu.

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    If you have some fund on buying leech, I would personally suggest to make i/l + bishop over the f/p + bishop. Because in this game, it is harder to leech from 50 - 70 than 70-120. Hence making a i/l to carry yourself in CPQ/CPQ2 is very time efficient.

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    If you don't want to spend too much meso on buying leech, then f/p is a good option from Lv80 - 120(Although I strongly suggest you to buy leech from lv85 onwards).
    For level 52 - 80s, you can use your cleric to leech your mage at coolie zombies, and it gives a very decent source of fund to buy leech for later levels.
     
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    Ahh unfortunately I've already started my grind on the f/p mage who is currently lvl 34, I used the orbis exchange quest to get from lvl 8 - 27 so I feel it'd be a waste to stop now.
    I think a f/p mage shouldn't be that much worse than i/l as long as I get through the early levels? Due to the covid 19 situation we have going on right now, frankly I have all the time in the world lol. I do however plan to leech from 85 onwards.

    You say that f/p doesnt need much funding besides an elewand, do you reckon I could 1 shot ulu1/2 or petris at lvl 130 with meteor 30 and nothing but a 18o TMA elewand 5?

    Also, if I made a bishop along with the archmage, wouldn't I be unable to provide hs with the leech unless I login/logout or cc after every hs?
     
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    I’d suggest f/p > i/l anyday if your intention is to get by with efficient cost & time!

    In CPQ Yes, I/L is reaal strong, but Hey, F/P aint that weak either! Once you get pass lvl71 is where the difference starts to be really visible.
    Firewands are cheaper, Meteor Quest is super easy to unlock compared to our reputable Blizzard quest that takes an ridiculous 3-4hours to unlock.
    Heck lvl71-85 would be over in a blast by mist training.

    1hitting ulu1&2 for F/P is a walk in a park, with a zakum helmet, super entry level mage gears alongside with a cheap lvl130 elewand 5 will allow you to begin your leeching journey.

    Overall while your fire mage is leeching from lvl85+, your bishop can be targeting Carnival PQ after!
    Lvl30-71 wouldn’t be much of an issue and find a buddy like shadower to go to himes at lvl71 to quickly fly towards lvl81 for that maxed out holy symbol!

    HS mule is super important and its really recommended to start it early.
     
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    Thank you very much for reassuring me of my decision!

    Now I do have a question:
    I currently have a decent amount of gear on the f/p and im aware that extra int will provide you with more mp per level up,

    1.Should I transfer these gears over to the hs mule to speed up the leveling and lose out on the potential mp on the f/p? or keep them on the f/p over the leeching process?

    2. Also, I thought you didn't receive leech exp from himes until lvl 95? or am I wrong
     
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    That is completely fine, you can continue your f/p journey and use poison training at voodoo if you can't find a CPQ2 party.

    Yes it's painful to train f/p from lv30 - 70s but like i said, you can use your cleric to leech your f/p mage at coolies zombie, it's slow but you can have good amount of meso income. For the period of 30-50, just try your luck in CPQ1, it is the fastest way to level.

    Yes, When you unlocked Blizzard/Meteor 30 @Lv130, You can 1 shot Ulu1 with just a clean elemental wand of your type. It is super easy. But for petrifighter's leech, you will need 1257 magic attack to 1 shot them, which requires you high level or godly equipment. My f/p is now lv168 and have about 2b worth of equipment to just 1shot petri, which i think is totally not worth and takes too much time to train.

    In my Personal Opinion, duo mage at Ulu1 is much better and easier achievable, and you can earn equal or more than petri leech.

    Yes, since you are using bishop to hs, you have to change channel or leave party everytime you hs. It is abit annoying but totally doable by using commands, such as ~partyinvite <your ign>.
     
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    1.Unlike other classes mages leveling with int gears does not affect alot. So go ahead and transfer these gears out while ur leveling ur bishop

    2.Theses a method to train at himes from lvl71+ after leaving CPQ2 which is to find a 5 level difference (you will receive exp because of that level difference)
    shadower friend who can easily meso bomb himes, and you spamming heal to aggro towards it :)
    Well imo its the best leveling method If u happen to find that buddy.
    Other then that normal grinding areas will work too.
     
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    Thank you very much! I will now focus on getting my f/p to 85 and transfer all gear to hs mule afterwards as I leech.
    Sadly, I don’t have a shadower friend who could help me, do you think the common grinding areas will be faster than Pirate PQ?
     
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    Pretty sure PPQ would be your #1 training spot for a while. It's fucking shit but the exp is pretty good.
     
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