There's some things that most players here consider common knowledge, but noobs are completely unfamiliar with and potentially get blacklisted for, or upset people by doing. Let's be nice and spread this knowledge to today's lucky 10000 (or whatever the number is for Royals) Here's common etiquette for Royals, split by content. If I'm missing anything please comment and I'll add it in, and remember: communication is key. If you're ever unsure what to do or what's standard, ask your party! Easily sharable link to this guide: https://tinyurl.com/royals-etiquette General Be respectful when other people are drop trading items. Don't loot things that don't belong to you. Don't drop trade items yourself - while it's rude to loot, it's not against the rules, and sudden server crashed/keyboard issues/internet issues can always happen and make you lose your items. APQ All 4 runs are expected (~10 minutes/run), meaning you're signing up for about 40 minutes of content. Make sure you won't have to leave midway through, as then the rest of your party can't finish their runs Most people use Elie's bonus map, found at https://tinyurl.com/apq-bonus . Look at the party HP mark to see which position you'll spawn in Apples from your assigned boxes are yours. If your pet loots an apple that dropped from someone elses' box, then you should return that apple to them after the bonus. This tends to be the biggest cause of drama in APQ, so be attentive! Leech Selling If you're selling leech, keep up a timer and pause it when you leave to go NPC items. Similarly pause it if you're inactive for other reasons, like running to the bathroom/AFKing or chatting a lot Pap Drop a coin on the door outside the map before you enter, to show that it's taken. If you see a coin on the door, don't enter! General Bossing Valuable items will generally be sold off by the party leader, and then they'll track down everyone and pay them equal splits of the profits after they sell. People in the run might choose to "buy out" the item, where they take it and pay everyone splits immediately. Some parties might give a slight discount. For example, a Chaos Scroll (worth 500m) drops in a quad (4 player) Zakum run. One player could buy it out and pay the others 125m (500m/4) each, to keep the scroll. Bishop MAINS get splits, and are expected to contribute to the boss somehow (holy shield, dispel, genesis if multiple parts). Mules do not get splits. People bringing multiple attackers still only count as one player. If you accidentally loot someone's NX, pay them back at 4m per 1k NX looted (so 20m for a 5k card). The exact rate will vary over time, but 1:4 is pretty standard. Keep your pet loot off so you don't accidentally loot other players' items! (There might be niche exceptions using item ignore, but please be very careful that you know what you're doing with this first) Generally, it's best to decide who gets what loot from bosses BEFORE starting them - NX, equip drops, event drops, or other untradables. Tradable items are sold off for splits, or are worthless. Zakum Both (2) runs are expected (~20-30 minutes/run), meaning you're signing up for 40mins-1hr of content. Whoever drops the Eye of Fire to summon Zakum gets the NX that's dropped. Discuss with your party who's dropping eye, and who's looting helms (if no buyers) BEFORE the run starts (also, event mobs/drops if there's an event giving them) Usually, you'll use heartstoppers for arms, and then an apple (or two, for slower parties) for main body, stoppering after apple(s) run out to finish up the fight. Krex Both (2) runs are expected (~20-30 minutes/run), meaning you're signing up for 40mins-1hr of content Discuss with your party who gets rings and who gets NX BEFORE the run starts If a quad run, usually 2 people get a ring, and 2 people get a run of NX If a trio run, usually 2 people get a ring, and 1 person gets NX from both runs. Krex NX is really bad so be kind to the NX looters... Scarga (Scarlion + Targa) Both (2) runs are expected (max of 30 minutes/run), meaning you're signing up for an hour of content at max Discuss with your party who gets NX or helms, if you're not selling helms Discuss with your party which ones you're summoning (or both. Usually both, but not always). Make sure at least one person has bears, but unlike Eye of Fire, bears do not necessarily get you NX, as they're trivial to acquire. Shao Whoever brings the HS mule gets NX. Attack potion depends on how strong you are. Just make sure you clear in time, and use whatever's cheapest otherwise. Horntail ONE run is expected, not two. This is because one run takes 1-1.5 hours, so both runs would take far too long for most players. 2-4 5k NX cards drop. Generally, priority for these is based off who brought mules, and then highest level. Sed/HS mules have highest priority Example: Player A brings sed, player B brings a bishop mule, player C brings crash mule, player D brings nothing. NX order is A > B > C > D Example: Player A brings SED+BS mules, player B is lv 190, player C brings crash mule, player D is lv 200. NX order is A > C> D > B Note: if you are a mule class such as paladin or bucc, you usually don't count as bringing that mule. Exception is if you're a shadower acting as sed. Sometimes if a member of the party is relooting HTP, they might forfeit their NX spot and become last priority. This depends on the party, ask first! Usually you use heartstoppers for preheads, and apples for the main body. Appling preheads is getting slightly more popular though, since apples are cheap. Crimsonwood Keep PQ Both (2) runs are expected (~40 minutes/run), meaning you're signing up for around an hour and a half of content. Usually you use 2 apples for the run, and finish with stoppers. Pro parties might use 1 apple + stoppers. Be nice to your archer, they put in the most work (and might have to use an extra apple) If it's a quad run, swap bonus between runs to make sure everyone gets an equal number of boxes (the top two spots have 8 boxes, the bottom have 7 so you want 15 boxes each over the 2 runs) It costs a total of 24 hearts to start both runs, so before running everyone pays their share of hearts directly to the party leader. Quad run = everyone pays 6 hearts After bosses are cleared and bonus locations are assigned, enter the pre-bonus staging room and wait until the time remaining is 4:40, so that everyone goes and enters the very time-limited bonus together If you loot the MoNs (Mark of Naricain drops), you do not participate in bonus. If it's a trio (3 player) bonus, they might ask you for assistance with breaking boxes, but make sure not to take loot! It's recommended to use pet loot for bonus, just don't forget to take it off when entering the next run Neo Tokyo Bosses These are almost always done solo, discuss loot distribution with your party ahead of time. Fragments and NX are the main untradables, with fragment C tending to be highest value, and A being lowest. Lionheart Castle (LHC) / Lion King's Castle LKC (Same content, different names) You're expected to stay for the full hour. There might be a short break halfway through to go to the bathroom and re-echo. You're expected to use apples (6 apples for the hour) unless stated otherwise Make sure to bring enough pots/projectiles. Don't just leave the map - that'll not only reduce the party's kill speed, but also the party bonus exp they get from killing mobs. If you DC, return as quickly as you can. Being missing is a significant reduction to rates. At the end, wait until everyone's timer runs out to 0 (people say "done" or "thanks" or something similar once it runs out for them) Read the LHC Guide to learn how to efficiently run this content: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/234569/
I'll add on CWK: - it is expected to enter the portal after boss room and wait for the timer to be 4:40 before everybody goes together through the next portal. Don't prematurely enter the bonus room as it will fuck it up for other party members. - Pet loot is always off, besides bonus room where it's okay to have pet loot on. - usually it's a "keep whatever you got in bonus room for yourself" type of content, but sometimes when communist bon is announced, it means you will split whatever you get (and likewise for the others that takes bon) with the 3 other ppl or 2 other ppl that signed for bonus. Of course, this should be talked about before the run, and almost never happens in public runs, only within guilds and even then it's not always happening. Another note - MoN (Mark of Naricain) takers do not participate in bonus room, they might be requested to help with destroying boxes if it's a trio bon run, but with pet loot off and without taking anything. Great guide, nice job
Would player D not have priority over player B since they are a higher level and both are not bringing mules?
Firstly, thank you for making this guide! I would recommend asking Shira to link to it on the community blacklist, and perhaps that you also make a meaningful tiny url to it that we can use when we would like to link people to it in game. Guild masters might like to put links to it on guild bbs, and I can also see it being valuable during minor disputes in game, where somebody might just need to be educated on common etiquette in this server. I'd make it a bit clearer that quad = 4. I at first missed that the word "quad" was there. Best not to risk making anybody think that person misses out on a split (i.e. if there was 5 people). I would also say something about bishop mains. If there is a bishop main (i.e. they are not also attacking), then they get a split. If it's just a mule, then they do not. Bishop mains are expected to actively cast dispel, and also holy shield if they have it. Using genesis (or ults in general) should not be used in zakum, unless all party members agree to it. The risk of lag causes a lot of stress to people. If it's during an event where bosses summon mobs upon death, be clear about who gets that stuff! Usually it'll be the NX looters, as they already are getting a pretty raw deal. Agree before hand about which boss (or both) will be summoned, and who is bringing and will drop bears. Like with krex, it's worth giving those event summons a mention. These are usually apple runs. General expectation is that 2 apples + stoppers (or 1 apple + stoppers if very pro). Be nice to the BM. They have to put the most effort in, for the same rewards as everybody else. Do not leave your mules in the path of where the warrior will be rushing the bosses to the corner. It makes rushing that much more annoying. MoN etiquette might be worth a mention too. Sometimes there will be a buyer, and sometimes one person will be looting MoNs instead of getting bonus. Again most important thing is to agree at the start. In fact, I'd put this as a golden rule of all content: discuss who gets what before you start the content, so that if anybody disagrees, they can leave. --- Another section you might like to add is LHC etiquette. - You are expected to stay for the full hour. - LHC runs are apple runs (i.e. 6 apples), unless agreed otherwise. - You must not leave to recharge stars or bullets or to buy arrows or pots (bring enough!!!). If you do somehow end up getting caught short (everybody makes the occasional mistake), ask your party if they have spares. Do not just disappear off to town. - If you DC, try to return as quickly as possible. - You should be paying full attention to the LHC run. Excessive chatting to the party or to your other chat lists will reduce your dps, and reduce the EXP for everybody. - Warriors and buccs should be proactively be using rush. Shads and buccs are expected to use smoke and TL, and to coordinate the use of these with their party. - At the end, keep attacking until everybody's timer is at 0 (usually people will say "done" or "thank you for party" or "tyfp" when it is).
Should add something like: - Be respectful during others' drop trades, and do not loot items that don't belong to you. Even though staff already publicly stated that they do not condone the action, some players still seem to fail to understand that stealing another player’s items during drop trades is considered extremely poor etiquette. Hopefully including this will help raise awareness and encourage players to treat each other with more respect.
We don't condone drop trades, and we don't condone stealing from drop trades. The community blacklist has also decided on several occasions not to blacklist people for looting from drop trades, and so I don't think this is that clear cut.
Fixed! Added, except commie bonus since it's unusual and I'd expect people to ask when they don't know what it means. Pet loot went into the general bossing section. Clarified quad zak, added a case for who gets splits (yes BS mains, no mules, multi-attackers still only count as one). I didn't include that genesis shouldn't be used because as far as I know, it no longer causes disconnection issues and hasn't for years - just like the mage event drop rate nerf, people need to stop being superstitious about mages. Added event mobs/drops to things to discuss Added scarga mention to decide which you're summoning, and to make sure you bring bears. Noted that bear drop doesn't necessarily mean you get NX, unlike zak. Added that CWK uses apples, to be nice to the archer (sometimes it's MM!), and MoN doesn't get bon. Is the mule rush etiquette necessary after the recent patch? That seems to have fixed the main rush issues, so it might no longer be a problem? Added the golden rule under general bossing. Added LHC, but besides preparation/returning after DC I decided to link the bougie guide instead - this is a place for common mistakes/issues, not a place for optimizing content. Created https://tinyurl.com/royals-etiquette for easy reference. @Shiratsuyu , any interest in linking it on the blacklist? Guess that needs a new section. Added a note that you shouldn't drop trade yourself. Restrained myself from adding an exception that you can loot drop trade items if your ign is Saledor. Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! Edit: Ultimately, it might not be community blacklistable, and definitely isn't bannable, but it's still rude, will upset people, and will likely get you onto personal and perhaps guild blacklists, so I think it's worth adding.
If there are only 2 warriors on LHC party and you ( warrior) want to just lazy afk at mid ask the other warrior if its ok, otherwise help him do the rush job; Buccs should push mid. Dont think you are expected to do 2 zak/scarga runs, some people just do it when there is a buyer, unless your party is going for exp. If you doing a boss that need CR try to stay near the paladin as the range of the skill is really short and pally might need to walk just to buff you.
confused about this part. you are expected to do 2 runs. you are not only here for 1 run (unless it's mentioned its only one run).
If you are bossing just for money you wont waste apples on another run if no buyer as zak scarga gives almost no xp for higher lvs
if you join a zakum party, you are expected to do both runs. you can't just say gg guys cya next time and leave, leaving them stuck without a *insert ur class* attacker. i dont know how you boss, but if i join a zakum run and it wasn't mentioned that its only one run - i do both of them, as expected of me.
Didnt said you shouldnt warn your party before hand but you cant expect the lv 200 is doing it just for fun unless its a exp run a said above ; you can just get another person to fill as jobs are not mandatory on these bosses its no like cwk and apq that you would fk the party by leaving.
so while you're at it, based on that logic, if i lvlup to 200 mid lhc golems, i can just leave too, and they can smega for another person. cause i got my xp, who cares about the other ppl in the pt 0.0
In that case leaving would ruin the party, as said above again..i am not saying its ok to leave if you gonna fk the party, i am saying if you are joing zak/scarga party wich has a buyer just for profit you should not expect everyone gonna be up for another run if no buyer, and its ok as you can just recruit other people if you running for xp. Some people dont have so much time to grind and need to optimize time while bossing for profit. And again as someone gonna not read ,if its a exp party you are expected to do 2 runs.
you're missing the point here. "Some people dont have so much time" - so don't do the content. "leaving would ruin the party" - so is leaving before 2 runs are done. "i am not saying its ok to leave if you gonna fk the party" - but you say you don't have to stay for both runs (which is wrong), hence, fucking up the party. buyer doesn't matter. you join zak/scarga = you join for both runs. its an "unwritten rule" here. just like if you go apq - you do 4 runs. if you go cwk - you do both runs. all of these are basic etiquette, and unless mentioned otherwise (such as - R>CWK 1 run only or R>Scarga 1 run only) - you do the full 2 runs. I personally would blacklist you or anybody else that joins only for one run if it wasn't mentioned that its only for one run. People that join only for one run are rare, so you do fuck up the party if you decide you wanna leave. Of course, if unexpected emergencies happen it's understandable as we are all human, but if you leave just because "you're done" or "no buyer", that's just bad manners.
There are two sides the one who will feel harmed by people leaving and having to recruit anyone to fill ,and the other side who would feel harmed by having to spend money and time on a run wich he had no interest. I am sure people will agree with both ways. We gave our opnions no point keep going with it.
Thank you for making this!!! This would've been so helpful when I first started out Q_Q I'd prob add in a small area/text just talking about what happens to monster cards drops~ I'm not quite sure how it works *commonly* because I only join full parties w/ friends & guildies & alli Not sure if common etiquette for shops is needed here too tbh
I don't think there is common etiquette for cards, just ask if you need them so everyone else knows not to loot.
