I made this thread cause there are many leechers recently and they have own rate/technic for selling leech. So I wanna make the list for how their actual service is. please submit with (leech place, seller Ign, party members level, how much exp you got (upload start/end exp SS if possible) + price). If you got the monster card EXP buff, dont upload this time. I wish every seller will know their own leech exp rate and selling like this smega in the future. Leech place seller's Lv, Ign (date)Lv.(seller)/(me,you)/(partner) exp/hr Rate Lv.(seller/min level/min level) / price Skele (split) Lv.108+ Lv.165 BS Ign: IlIvvW (ilivvw) Price 60m mesos/hr (Aug 7, 2021)Lv.165/131/118 44.0m EXP/hr Rate Lv.165/108/108 39.4m EXP/ 60m mesos = 0.657 (exp/mesos) Lv.136 BS Ign: Solsticio Price 65m mesos/hr (Aug 2, 2021)Lv.136/131/118 38.8m EXP/hr Rate Lv.136/108/108 34.9m EXP/ 65m mesos = 0.537 (exp/mesos) (Aug 8, 2021)Lv.136/134/127 44.7m EXP/hr Rate Lv.136/108/108 40.6m EXP / 65m mesos = 0.624 (exp/mesos) Lv.156 BS Ign: yookan Price 60m mesos/hr (Aug 7, 2021)Lv.156/130/116 40.9m EXP/hr Rate Lv.156/108/108 36.7m EXP/ 60m mesos = 0.611 (exp/mesos) Lv.137 BS Ign: TickTockTick Price 65m mesos/hr (Aug 2, 2021)Lv.137/134/118 43.9m EXP/hr Rate Lv.137/108/108 38.9m EXP/ 65m mesos = 0.598 (exp/mesos) Lv.148 BS Ign: Kevvo Price 65m mesos/hr (Aug 7, 2021)Lv.148/129/134 34.6m EXP/hr Rate Lv.148/108/108 32.7m EXP/ 65m mesos = 0.503 (exp/mesos) Lv.149 BS Ign: TruelyJade Price 65m mesos/hr (Aug 2, 2021)Lv.149/130/108 29.1m EXP/hr Rate Lv.149/108/108 25.6m EXP/ 65m mesos = 0.394 (exp/mesos) Lv.150 BS Ign: Elperronll (not sure I or L) Price 60m mesos/hr (Aug 8, 2021)Lv.150/133/132 25.2m EXP/hr Rate Lv.150/108/108 23.2m EXP/ 60m mesos = 0.386 (exp/mesos) Petri (split) Lv.105+ Lv.148 mage Ign: Edis Price 60m mesos/hr (Aug 1, 2021)Lv.148/122/115 29.0m EXP/hr Rate Lv.148/105/105 26.8m EXP/ 60m mesos = 0.447 (exp/mesos) Lv.141 mage Ign: Peniel Price 65m mesos/hr (Aug 2, 2021)Lv.141/129/107 30.0m EXP/hr Rate Lv.141/105/105 26.2m EXP/ 65m mesos = 0.403 (exp/mesos)
Don't we wanna make a more kind leecher list instead of this sort of leech black list? I mean, i can see people not buying somebody leech coz "Ezpzbish does 2 more million exp per hour coz he is 3 levels lower than you so i'm paying 55 instead of 65" like, we could just do a cool leechers list without screw some high level bish who obviously can't compete with a 137 bish in any possible way, but still is not that much of a difference in time/exp/mesos (probly 5m and 5-10 mins to balance out). This is just my opinion, but i think it could be a little more healthy for the community having another kind of guideline to vouch for someone leech.
Mm I mean the post is quite technically just pure numbers and math - interpretation is left to whoever is reading. If anything, this provides transparency for both buyers and sellers. For buyers - They can see who is trustworthy and know what they can likely expect from paying x mesos upfront. For sellers - They can see how they compare to other leech sellers. If they are significantly better, they can perhaps adjust their rates accordingly. If they are worse and didn't know, they would be able to see and find ways to improve their service. edit: oops didn’t thoroughly read initial post
I think this is actually a blacklist. You may be dissatisfied with the difference in experience points between sellers, but I think that the difference due to individual skills is inevitable. If you are dissatisfied with the seller, all you have to do is refrain from purchasing. Need to measure and write in such a forum? As a general rule of the game, sellers do not have to play well. It is quantified and listed on the forums and can cause unjustified slander just because the seller is not good at playing. Also, there is no guarantee that this list provided is accurate. There is a statement that start / end SS should be added if possible, but I think that few people take such trouble. Some people enter afking after purchase. Even if the server time is displayed in 1 hour on the SS, it is troublesome to get accurate results if the seller's equipment sales time is included or the leech is 2 hours or more. In short, getting accurate measurement results can be very tedious and can cause defamation to the Seller, so I don't think it will be used properly.
Hopefully with enough input here, more people will finally start realizing that low level seller doesn't equate to high quality service, and vice versa. When it comes to any map that isn't as brain-dead as ulu2/mb2, it actually takes effort for a (good) leech seller to learn the optimal rotations & spawn timers to provide their buyer the best exp possible. I personally feel like this thread is fair for both sellers and buyers as @Kethoe explained in his reply. This gives good leech sellers more exposure and reward them for putting their time and effort to provide a good service. And for the not-so-good leech sellers, it's only fair for the buyers that they adjust their rates accordingly. Spoiler: spoiler people really shouldn't be charging a premium just because they're a low level petri/skele leecher especially when the way they clear the map is far from optimal i've gotten more exp/h from a 15x seller than 13x seller on various occasions for both petris/skeles
Exactly, This is what I wanted to say. Some people are thinking "Im selling XXX leech and others sell for XXm so I can sell that price too". But selling leech is not as like as scroll price. Each seller has their way to sell leech. (Ex. dont loot drops that far from the route, doing bonus time)
yes. So why are they putting same price ? How do you avoid the seller when you don't know how good/bad is ? what ? I mean if sellers not good at leeching, just cut the price and make it fair with buyer. And dont need to be exactly 1 hour leech exp. You can afk while leeching. Just SS start/end exp. Because seller do npc/extra time or not lol. Its their individuality.
As a guide, I don't think there is a problem with selling at a general market price. Buyers also have the option of not buying if it is not worth the price. When deciding whether a seller is good or bad based on the amount of money, once you buy and feel that you are a bad seller, you do not need to buy from that person again. Is this not good? However, it is difficult to know in advance, so I think I created a thread like this. I don't think it's a problem that you're dissatisfied with the amount you paid and the XP you earned. As already mentioned, I think the problem is the act of listing IGN and revealing the superiority or inferiority of the seller. If the seller is inferior to the other sellers, do you think it's okay to publish it in a thread? Are you worried about the possibility of defamation to other players in some cases? Unless the seller is a scammer, the seller is a player who has not violated. I don't think it's a good idea to create a list like this, but what about it?
It can be both whitelist and blacklist. There are pros and cons to everything. Don’t be too nervous. How about making a whitelist? Buyer can recommend good sellers in this thread. It will be a positive list for both sellers and buyers.
As I said in my last post, I think the very act of listing IGN to check the superiority or inferiority of the seller is the problem. This also applies to the first post of nyannko777, which clearly shows the superiority and inferiority of the individual. Before talking about what could be a blacklist or whitelist, I think I'm skeptical about the need to list.
As stated before, this isn’t a blacklist, nor do I believe this needs to be a whitelist - it’s simply the pure numbers of exp/hour that a leecher gives and efficiency for exp/meso. Any legitimate and credible leecher should know approximately how much exp/hour they’re giving and a list like this should not seem like a threat to them and their leech selling/reputation. The leech market is a competitive one - I’m sorry if this comes off as harsh, but if someone isn’t good at leeching, they should find ways to improve or they can’t reasonably expect to be able to find buyers at the same rate as more skilled leechers. Producing poor service and listing the quantifiable numbers is not slander or defamation - it’s simply a transparent review of the service. It’s extremely bad and shady business practice to not be able to be upfront about the results you can produce. And to your point about superiority or inferiority of sellers, better leech sellers should be recognized for their service. I say this from selling hundreds of hours of leech and also buying hundreds of hours of leech as well. A list like this IS necessary because transparency and having concrete, quantifiable numbers can only help sellers with better work ethics and buyers who are spending their hard-earned mesos on leech service that may or may not be good. edit: shoutout to my duku days where I was booked pretty much everyday for like 4 months straight, a lot of the time without having to smega - simply from referrals and reputation (where my bois and fellow duku dudes @Snake @bloo9ine at tho) https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-t...es-by-dripbrew-wholesale.181727/#post-1073021
Some people who buy leeches first buy leeches in an hour and then decide whether to continue the EXP earned. Plus, if you meet a good seller, you can make friends and negotiate regular purchases. If it's a bad seller, don't buy it anymore. Isn't it just a matter of each doing this? Many such techniques are still common today. What I mean is that, as I have said many times, IGN does not need to be listed and published. I say I'm skeptical about revealing the superiority and inferiority that the general public can see. That's all I want to say, so if you don't have any doubts about this, I don't think it makes sense to talk any further.
I have a LV165 BS skele leecher, I also can give my buyer at least 38m exp/hr. (always ask my buyer before and after leech what LV and %exp to calculate how much exp they got) (and without card buff when you collect 5 cards to full, you will get 1 hour 15% exp bonus time from that monster) https://royals.ms/forum/threads/new-source-exp-table.155853/ But only can sell 60/120 because so many ppls care my LV I just want to say leecher LV will not affect too much, all exp/meso rate up to TC and Map rotation skill.
Whether to consider the monster card buff ? The first one would be the +15% bonus exp for a full hour that activates when you complete a set of cards. Some buyers don't know, Some have already been collected, When is leeching complete a set? Spoiler: Example Take TickTockTick as an example If 43.9m EXP/hr is the exp obtained by the buyer after completing a set in less than 3~5 minutes 15% buff deduction 43.9m/1.15=38.1m
