Dexless Nightlord Equips to use Craven?

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    Hey guys,

    Im a dexless nightlord, and I wanna see If i can get enough dex equips to use my craven.

    So as of right now, Ill be getttin HTP+Egg, Zak helm 25+dex.

    So what other equips should i get ?
     
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    Maple leaf scrolled with dex
    Almighty ring
    Raccoon mask scrolled with dex

    Some low lvl thief or all class equips.

    The thing about dexless is that if you scroll for dex to be able to wear something, you could also have scrolled for luk instead.
    Since most luk scrolls are cheaper than dex scrolls, having some base dex and scrolling for luk might be more desirable than being dexless and scrolling for dex.
    Some things can only be scrolled for dex and not luk, so in that case, scrolling for dex is fine.
     
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    25 dex zak helm isnt good enuff, it needs to be like at least 32+ dex
    Top(5 or 6 dex)+bottom(18 dex)
    Rings if u have them. (event only)
    Almight ring.
    Earring dex at least 11 dex
    Face Acc (if maple leaf this shud be like 15 dex+)
    Eye Acc (this is hard to scroll since only 10% and 30% scroll gives dex....and its only 1 dex) even if its 1 dex eye acc equip, thats something
     
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    You can even wear a dragon purple sleeve without wasting luk:

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    While this is true, you're forgetting to take maple warrior into account. If you scroll everything possible for dex, such as bottoms face earrings helm eye, then you can have a lower base dex which means more points into base luk. The more base luk you have the more it scales with MW, which ends up meaning more attack.
     
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    Base dex also scales with MW though.
     
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    Dex doesn't give you damage.
     
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    But every dex that you get from MW is an AP you can put in luk instead.
     
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    But if the OP is dexless it means he is already at the minimum amount of base dex possible. This means that even though it scales with mw, you can never change those dex points into luk.
     
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    It takes 10 dex just to get 1 extra AP to put into luk. That is incredibly inefficient. It is much better to have 30 dex and 50 luk than 50 dex and 30 luk. If you see the difference you would only be getting 5 more to put into luk, giving you a measly total of 38 luk (5 from extra dex, 3 from MW20). Whereas by scrolling for dex and putting points in luk you would be getting 58 total luk potential (5 from MW20, 3 extra from having 30 dex)
     
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    That's not what I'm arguing though. What I'm saying is the following:

    Let's say you have 150 AP and you need 150 dex for a weapon.

    Dexless:
    25 base dex + 122 scroll dex+ 3 MW dex = 150 dex
    125 base luk +13 MW luk = 138 luk

    Not dexless:
    136 base dex + 14 MW dex = 150 dex
    14 base luk + 122 scroll luk + 1 MW luk =137 luk

    The only reason why there is a 1 point difference in luk is because 14 base luk rounds down.

    There is essentially no difference between having base dex and scrolling for luk, or not having base dex, and scrolling for dex.
     
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    You can't get 122 luk in items unless you start chaosing though. Only options that you have to scroll for luk is in earrings and top which is why in theory it might be the same, but in practical settings it is unrealistic.

    Scrolling for Luk
    Top
    Earrings

    Scrolling for Dex
    Helm
    Eye
    Face
    Bottom
    Earrings
     
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    The amount of luk obtainable by scrolls is entirely besides the point, the point is this: If you can scroll an item for x dex or for x luk, then it doesn't matter what stat you scroll for if you have x more of the other base stat.
     
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    I wouldnt really care if i scroll for dex or luk, but i wouldnt drop my dex below 30, just to get that extra point from mw, unless your gear is godly af and you can get 25 base while still using luk ears and a luk leaf tho :p
     
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    Yes, I agree that there is negligible difference.

    It's still better to go dexless (or as close as possible) than to have high dex though when you factor in everything. (Actually we're both off topic since he was talking about what equips he needed as a dexless sin).

    @Yuame
    I'm pretty sure it rounds up xD
     
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    how do you get 52 dex on zakum helm?
     
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    get a perfect 22 dex clean zakum helmet and 10% scroll the 10 slots (with white scrolls). It's super expensive and not advised.
     
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    yea that cost a lot for that 10 dex
     
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    I recently just reached the minimum dex to wear a Craven as a dexless sin.
    My equips:
    -7 dex 21luk Red China
    -22dex brown studded pants
    -32dex Zhelm
    -23dex HTP
    -7 dex Spectrum Goggles (2 slots left for, hopefully, purple sleeve)
    -7 dex sad mask
    -10 dex rose earrings7
    -4 dex Yellow Dojo Belt (Planning on choosing a red/black belt for Purple Sleeve)
    -Almighty Ring (Will likely drop if I find a better one)

    EDIT: Forgot to add 4th Job Medal +2 to all stats
    Hope that helps!
     

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