Do you need to wash an NL/Sair?

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    I want to make an NL/Sair.
    Leeching isn't a problem and I can easily buy int equips, however I find this extremely boring.
    I want to train normally and without having to leech, at least in the earlier levels.
    Are you not able to boss at 135/155 without washing?
     
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    Zakum, yes I believe so. I don't think you can hit the HP needed w/ HB for horntail by then.
     
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    around 3k HP at LV120,and about 30HP increased when you level up
    also theres 200HP/MP medal now
     
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    El Nathian Cape or Wrath of El Nath can increaes MaxHP if you needed
     
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    You can boss, even HT, but you'd just need to have a drk with you in your party to survive the first half (legs/wings) and be careful of mass seduce at the end. It's doable, I've only got 8k at 19x so for a while I was only hting with like 6-7k hp
     
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    Hi, A sair is definitely what you need, we dont need to wash much HP or just forget about HP wash stuff,... You can reach 5k6 HP at level 155 if you washed like 5 times, the number of Dark Knight in this server is alot, dont worry about that, I myself got Parkus95, My HB and MW 20 mule / A REALLY GOOD Friend, we go zak, .... together, so, its ok if you dont wash a Sair

    Edit: Playing a sair, you have to concentrate more than playing a NL, and we have less buff( just 2: booster and MW) than a NL. Playing Sair is more fun than NL, not just hold a single key for entire boss run, boring.
     
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    You should wash everyday. Staying clean and maintaining your personal hygiene improves your overall health. ~hehe~
     
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    I mean, Washing itself its a pain in the A. But as everyone has stated its just a way to make ur life easier in bosses. Skilled players> HP Washing
     
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    That's very refreshing to hear. Ive almost exclusively stuck with warriors (my DrK, page, etc), but I've been looking into leveling a sin to become a bosser (to compliment my otherwise solo training warriors)

    @ 70 I would have on my body, a dep star, 6 int cape, 18 int overall, and a zakum helm, leveling 70+assuming I level with all that on, that's more than PLENTY of int to wash and and supplement my already sufficient HP w/ HB?

    My goal here is to not focus on washing (seeing as I already am ad nauseum with my page...... lol.....)

    Extra question though:
    Do NL have enough HP to solo zakum/Krexel by levels that one could feasibly do so?
     
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    If you want to be able to play it safe with the minimum HP needed to not need a dk for HT, I'd go with about 7.6k.
    But yes, skill > HP washing, NLs have a naturally high avoidability so surviving is easier even when you make mistakes. Learning how to avoid taking touch damage from wings when they rise up and you're attacking head A/Head C as well as knowing when to stay full HP in prep for mass seduce.
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/a-comprehensive-night-lord-guide.23303/#HPWashing
    I listed out the different HP goals needed for different bosses there.
    A 135 NL should be able to zakum without needing HB even if they don't HP wash at all, I believe. Zakum only requires like 3.2k HP. And same goes for krexel. You won't be soloing these bosses for a while, but you can duo with another attacker + SE mule early on depending on your damage. I could solo with mules but it still takes me about 40 mins to an hour on gizers @19x
     
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    There is no need actually, but is recommended. If you are the kind of person who dislikes being hp short ( like me) washing is definitely for you. In terms of NL wash as Sila said 7.6 k is good to survive legs altho some ppl would prefer to go for 9-10k to tank wings ( if you are 87 like me you would flash jump into wings and die e.e). Nls have high avoid so anything over 11k is just pure luxury. As for sairs I'm afraid I can't help much with it. Although I heard from a close friend that sairs don't need much hp due to the way their skills work, but I can't be certain.
     
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    How hard is to get to 9-10k for NL? Will 150-200 base int with 60-70 int equips do the job?
     
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    I don't know how hard it is neither the required amount of washes but an estimate for 10k hp will be 8-10b with 350 int ( perhaps 300-315), on the other hand you can get 30k NL with 400 base int and int gear making a total of 550 or so, total cost 20b ( including mp washing from 71-121)

    Aside note: if u can't afford now int gear, just keep adding int base, it's basically the same thing
     
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    somewhere between these two if you want to play with numbers, though 9k and 10k are arbitrary numbers for bosses.
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    my NL, has 5.7k HP at 155 is that good? and my sair should be fine he has 6.7k
     
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    5.7k at 155 just means you'll need HB for HT but you'll be fine with it.
     
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    how much do u need without HB?
     
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    7.6k minimum if you're careful around wings and dont take touch damage from things.
     
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    is that only for dps class? what about warriors/mages?
     
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    Warriors have high amount of hp, same as mages have high amount of mp
     

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