Donator Equip Prices

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Do you think there should be a price change for certain donator equips)?

  1. Yes, I think the prices should be changed a bit!

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  2. No, I think the prices are good the way they are right now.

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  1. Marty
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    I've been going through the donator shop a lot, and have noticed a lot of prices that I deem unfit for the equipment in question. I therefore want to suggest some price changes in the donator shop to make it a bit more equal. My concerns in particular are about the following categories:

    • Earrings (5 RP)
    • Capes (5 RP)
    • Shields (5 RP)
    Now, as you can see, these equipment categories are, in terms of price, all equal. They all cost 5 RP. However, I'm almost certain most people would agree with the fact that capes are a whole lot more spectacular than earrings and shields. My proposal would be:

    • Earrings (4 RP instead of 5)
    • Capes (6 RP instead of 5)
    • Shields (4 RP instead of 5)
    There are several arguments to support this change, at least, to my mind. Please feel free to state in a comment what you think, and if there should be equipment categories changed, too. To name but a few arguments to support the above named changes:

    First of all, the selection of earrings is very limited and, to my mind, very unsatisfying. They're hardly noticed, especially with bigger hairstyles, and therefore make little change to your character's appearance compared to no earrings or actual earrings (non-NX) you're currently wearing. This lack of demand and lack of a noticeable change to your appearance justifies for a slight price change in my opinion.

    The same goes for shields. Not all classes wear shields in the first place; and for most, they are hardly noticed or look very good to begin with. Bow(wo)men, Night Lords, Warriors using Two-Handed weapons, Pirates... They all don't use shields, and those classes that do (Mages, Shadowers and Warriors using One-Handed Weapons) have shields that are hardly noticeable, and the shields in the donator shop aren't a very spectacular replacement. I therefore suggest a price change to 4 RP here, as well.

    Then there's capes, which are, to my mind, truly spectacular; at least, some of them. Most are pretty big, they have nice effects and look dashing, and significantly change your character's appearance, yet they are the same price as donator shields or earrings. I'd say this is not really fair.

    Of course, this is a small change, but I also think having no equips for less than 5 RP is just not right, either. Imagine donating 5 or 10 pounds, and you end up with 4 unused RP. It's quite depressing, to be honest; having no use for them whatsoever is just annoying.

    There is one big argument against this change: Those who bought any of the three above named donator equips will demand a refund or will have gotten their cape for 1 RP less than they should have. We're talking here about a 1 RP loss, though... If you want it back, I'd say it's easy to refund, really, though. I myself got a shield for 5 RP, but I wouldn't mind not getting that 1 RP back, personally. It's a small sacrifice to make.

    So, now I ask... What do you think? Do you think this change should be made? Do you think there's other equipment categories that are over- or underpriced? Please vote for/against a price change and post a comment if you want, so we can see what the rest of the community thinks.

    Edit: It's been discussed if bigger price changes for other equipments (e.g. Mounts) are justified, as well as the need of refunds. Would be great if we could have some more input here, so we can actually make a good and proper evaluation.
     
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    I agree that the prices of earrings should be lowered since almost nobody buys NX earrings, but I don't think cape prices should change. This is not because I don't think they are worth 6RP, but simply because the smaller donation currencies come in variables of 5/10 (Smallest donations are 10RP/21RP). Meaning that someone that only wants to donate a small amount can't afford a cape and another 5 RP item or a cape and a hair/face. When it comes to shields, I think the transparent shield is worth 15 RP by itself to be honest (my opinion since shields are so ugly), so I wouldn't suggest a lowering to 4RP. Overall these changes aren't very big and are not worth the time spent to refund everyone one, and go through this whole hassle, when there are more important things to be done. My main argument is that at the end of the day it's only 1RP.

    Also one other thing you haven't addressed, if someone bought a cape for 5RP already, do they obtain -1 RP?

    Maybe some of the future updates like effects can be 3RP since they are kinda annoying to toggle on, since they don't stay on after you log off.
     
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    Okay, but the main point here, too, is the fact that there's no equips for under 5 RP. Also, if you think bigger changes are in order, then that's fine, too. So in general, sticking to the change of earrings would be better in your opinion, since it would allow players who bought e.g. a new hairstyle or face for 6 RP to still get something out of the 4 RP they got left.

    Feel free to suggest other, bigger changes, too... Btw, isn't there a way to do an automatic refunding? Not sure on this (-looks at Gi/Matt/John-), but I think there is a way to do that, especially when there's only 4 IDs (since there's only 4 donator earrings).
     
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    There is no need for refunds if the prices should change. People are well accustomed to the idea of a free market with changing prices. Some prices go up, some prices go down.
     
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    I like the idea of a reduction in price and the increases but I disagree on the refund. The way I see it is that you're supporting the server by donating. Giving refunds would take a long time and they would also have to charge you more for your cape which would just take too much time to handle.

    I don't think anyone would be upset by 1 rp difference. If anything the prices should be lowered or increased as an incentive to donate.

    If anything I would like to see some 1/2 RP items in the donation store as there's always a few rp that you have left over as change.

    I think the mounts should be significantly dropped in price though. They're nice, but not 25 RP nice. 15 at the most imo.
     
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    Good point; it is, after all, a donation, and shouldn't be seen as purchase as such.

    You're also right in saying that there won't be many people upset about a 1 RP price change; however, as discussed a bit above, a bigger change might be good, too, and that could lead to more trouble.

    What would be a good 1/2 RP item, though? I agree, it's a good idea, what should it be, though? Any thoughts, guys?

    I'd also like to add: 67% votes for this change. Would be great if we have more votes on this, since it's only 67% out of a mere 12 votes right now...

    Am I the only one who can't see who voted what? I'm 100% certain I enabled this...
     
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    Of course the community is likely going to vote for a decrease in the prices. Doesn't mean that just because a majority want a change that it will happen.

    Like you have noticed, at the moment it is quite possible and common to end up having 1 RP less than required to buy some items. Especially if people are to donate the minimum amount. It is set this way to encourage more donations. Not because I am greedy - but because the server needs a certain amount of donations per month stay online.
     
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    That is, of course, understandable; I'm not just talking about a decrease of the prices, though; I want some increased as well. Capes, for example... Or, as was mentioned above, Transparent Shield. I also think Weapons are slightly underpriced, as well as shoes.

    This is just a matter of re-balancing from my point of view, and when you would make other desireable items cost more and others less, the same will happen: You will end up with 1 or 2 RP less than needed for an item you want.
     

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