Double wash for Marksman

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    Hello everybody.
    I wanted to make a marksman for a while now, and i realized ill have to double wash it in order to survive HT, and have an easier time in general.
    Please correct me if Im wrong: in order to convert mp to hp (normal wash) i simply use an ap reset, take a point out of mp and put it in hp.
    For low hp classes, like bowman and thief, there isnt enough mp to convert into hp, so in order to generate more mp, they need to wear int gear and put base ap into int. is that correct so far?
    As far as i understood, mp wash includes lvling up, putting ap into mp and then use an ap reset to take it out of mp and put it in base stat, and this generates more mp.
    My goal is to reach around 10k HP with my Marksman, but i dont get the calculations since i just understood the concept of double wash.
    I have a 75 INT gear, could u guys help me calculate how much base int do i need? and guide me on which lvl do i start to mp wash and which do i hp wash?
    Thank u very much!
    also, i have a bishop so lvling isnt a problem
     
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    10k HP doesn't sound like a goal that should require MP washing. I'm more than happy to calculate it all for you of course! Tell me the following:

    Current Level
    Current HP
    Current MP
    Current Base Int
    Level You Want to Play Your Character

    Double washing is a very confusing term. Double washing just means HP washing and MP washing. HP washing is a different process from MP washing, but double washing just means using the two together.

    HP washing is:
    AP Reset: -MP +HP

    This is how you convert MP to HP, yes.

    To generate more MP for all classes to convert into more HP, you wear int gear and put base AP into int. But if this would not give enough MP for very high HP goals, then people have to MP wash to hit their HP wash goal (what you call double wash). Most people don't MP wash because they have lower HP goals and MP washing is expensive (75m per level of MP washing needed).

    MP washing is:
    Level Up: +5 AP into MP
    AP Reset: -MP +int (if you need 200 total base int but you only have 190 base int, you'll do this)
    • If this is true, you MUST use 5 AP Resets to -MP +int before leveling up again.
    AP Reset: -MP +main stat (if you need 200 total base int and you have 200 base int already, you'll do this)

    Hopefully it makes more sense now! Again, I can calculate everything for you if you just tell me the information above! You might be confused on what the level you want to play your character means. So you're going to need base int on your marksman. This means with each AP you put into int, your character's damage goes down, to the point its just really crappy damage. Most people want to finish washing at level 135 because this is when Zakum and Krexel bossing starts. There's generally no point to finishing washing early, and the later you finish washing, the cheaper it will be. Sometimes people want to finish their character at level 155 to save money and this is when Horntail runs start. It's all up to you! :D
     
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    First of all thank you very much for taking the time to answer!
    couple of questions tho..
    Why isnt 10k a goal? is 12 a more decent amout? to survive ht tail?
    Since i have yet to make my Marksman its lvl 0 :p
    im asking these questions because i wanna make it already and i dont want to make any mistakes..
    but the lvl i want to start playing it is 135, and lets say 12k hp. when should i start mp wash and hp wash? and till what lvl?
    once again, tyvm
     
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    LOL AKIRA! I went to look up for your spreadsheet. Thinking to myself, Akira would definitely comment on this one.

    Well, hello. o/
     
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    I meant 10k HP sounded possible to do with just base int and int gear hahaha! 10k is a great goal! I took your information and calculated a 12k HP Marksman at level 135 though. So this means:

    Levels 1-4 put AP into dex until you have 25 base dex for first job.

    Levels 4-50 keep adding int until you have 235 base int.

    Levels 50-120 put all AP into dex.

    Make sure you equip all your int gear before you level up. I just assumed 75 int of int gear starting at level 50, so equipping what int gear you can before level 50 gives you even more MP than my calculation!

    Levels 120-135 add all level up AP into MP.

    Level 135:
    231 AP Resets: -int +dex
    74 AP Resets: -MP +dex
    441 AP Resets: -MP +HP
    1 AP Reset: -MP +dex

    672 AP Resets total
    10.752b total with 16m AP Resets

    @Gopsss Of course!! I love math so HP washing help threads are my favorite. :D
     

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    Thank you very much!
    And may i ask the same results for 10k hp? I have the funds vu it sounds way too much leech selling
     
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    Of course!!

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    Level 1-4: 25 dex
    Level 4-50: 235 int
    Level 50-131: All AP into dex
    Level 132-135: All AP into MP

    Level 135:
    231 AP Resets: -int +dex
    14 AP Resets: -MP +dex
    330 AP Resets: -MP +HP
    1 AP Reset: -MP +dex

    561 AP Resets total
    8.976b total with 16m AP Resets

    Glad to help! ~f14
     
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    thank you so much! i see there's not much of a difference cost-wise between 12k and 10k hp wash; guess ill go with 12 then!
     
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