Exactly how to wash a hero?

Discussion in 'Help & Advice' started by Linda Bao, Apr 8, 2016.

  1. Linda Bao
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    Linda Bao Well-Known Member

    i read the hp washing guide, but it says heroes dont need washing. then i read plenty's guide which said they don't need it as much as others, or you could try to get 30k hp with 347 washes. i want to do some washing, but not 347. i had people tell me that 140 int is enough, so right now i'm at 68 base+72 (140 total) int at lvl 20. i'm still confused as to how to hp wash. all i know is that the extra int gives you extra mana, which you take out with ap resets and put into your hp. but then someone said i'm supposed to add 1 ap into hp, and take out mp and put into str, and to do this at lvl 50 or 70. which method is correct? and what level am i supposed to start using ap resets? and when i start taking out int points, does it go into str? can someone please explain exactly what i should do from here on out? and how many ap resets i will need in total? thanks!
     
  2. Andreas
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    If you are new here and have no funds, you will have a very tough time washing and playing with that base int.

    Is there any reason you want to HP wash, if you are a dedicated player you should go for it but it will take a lot more effort than not washing, and you can do all current content without washing anyways.
     
  3. Linda Bao
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    i'm going to leech it the whole way with my bishop :p
     
  4. Aram
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    Heroes DON'T need to wash (there isn't a class that NEEDS it anyway) but it's always nice to have a lot of spare HP, it will make things way easier.

    As a warrior you don't need base INT, decent INT gear will suffice even if you set your HP goal to 30k. Also, there's no need to leech a warrior, you can grind it and wash it without any problems at all (ranged classes are a different story though).

    A little bit of knowledge to understand how washing works:
    If you just try using an AP reset to take out from MP and add it into HP you won't be able to do so; why? HP and MP share the same pool of AP, and because there isn't any AP in the HP/MP pool yet you won't be able to take away points from either HP or MP.​

    Process to convert the extra MP to HP (for warriors):
    It's recommended to have at least a decent amount of available washes to make the process less of a hassle. If you want to see how many available washes you have use the formula:
    [ (currentMP - (4*level+56)) /4 ]​

    ● After leveling up and having a decent amount of available washes use one of your AP and add it to HP (the HP/MP pool will now have one point in it).
    ● Now that there's a point in the pool you can actually take away from it. Use an AP reset to take away from MP and add it to HP (you're taking away that point from the HP/MP pool but you're adding it back so there's still a point in it!).
    ● Repeat the process until you have your desired amount of HP or you've hit your base MP (4*level+56). Be aware of how many available washes you have, because there's a point where you might add to HP but won't be able to take away from MP.
    ● Add the rest of your AP to STR.​

    The amount of AP resets you will need depends on how much HP you want.
    Level doesn't matter much, just make sure you have a decent amount of available washes to make the process more simple.


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    TL ; DR

    Level up and use your AP and AP resets like this:
    +HP <-MP +HP> <-MP +HP> <-MP +HP> . . . <-MP +HP> <-MP +STR> +STR +STR +STR +STR

    Green = Fresh AP usage.
    Blue = AP reset usage.
     
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  5. Linda Bao
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    Linda Bao Well-Known Member

    thanks for the explanation. but is all the base int i have useless then?
     
  6. Eli
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    In general I'd say no because it will allow you to get extra MP much quicker. Depending on how long you plan to leech, you can easily have the extra MP required for 30k HP if you ever choose to wash more, which is good, especially at the cost of only 64 resets. (I have 30k myself and absolutely love my survivability)

    For your personal goal in not going nearly for 30k HP, I'd say yes, it's a bit excessive. If the thought of an extra 64 resets in the end is off-putting I'd say restart, but overall I think it's a great investment.
     
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  7. Linda Bao
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    Linda Bao Well-Known Member

    okay so i COULD afford it, but not now. i didn't plan on focusing on a new character anytime soon anyways. so i guess i'll just keep it..
    but right now i have ap that i haven't used yet. am i supposed to put it all in str until later levels then start putting it into hp? i want to be able to do my job advancements but i have all this int and no dex
     
  8. Matty
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    You'll have enough MP to wash to 30k by 120 haha.

    Don't forget that warriors on average gain about 66 HP per level.
     
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  9. Eli
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    All strength, yes. A Victoria's Amorian Basket plus a 10 dex bathrobe should make the job advancement easy. For HP you'll just be adding a single point into HP and then with that 1 point, continuously reset out of MP and back into HP.
     
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  10. Linda Bao
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    do i have enough base int to do this? i want to put some of the int equips back on my bishop, and possibly sell back the rest. i don't need 30k hp at 120, but maybe later levels, if i ever get there
     
  11. Matty
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    70 base int until 135 will put you at 22k by 155 I think.

    You'll have around 11-11.5k naturally at 155. For every reset, you gain 50-55 HP and lose a fixed 4 MP. If your goal is 30k by later levels, I would try to utilize natural HP gain as much as possible and plan accordingly.
     
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