I recently joined the MapleRoyals community, and I'm playing a Crossbowman (level 110 at the time of this writing). I have come to a point where I desperately need HP, and I've been directed by fellow maplers to the Olaf questline. I'm really glad that there is an alternate way to gain HP, because I believe HP washing is not a fun game mechanic (apologies to those tho think it is). Speaking of fun, I've really enjoyed the PQ aspect of the Olaf quests. Using megaphones to gather up party members, and having a good old time playing together. On the flipside, there are the requirements to hunt field bosses. This part has been the antithesis of fun for me. I've got lucky with some, while with others I had to wait around for hours, not even knowing if I'm getting close to one spawning, or if I just missed because some NX farmer got to them before me. I even gave up after a long time on Stumpy and King Clang, because I reached the limits of my patience. Spamming CC, AFKing. The uncertainty of whether you will find a spawn within a reasonable amount of time. These are not fun game mechanics. There have been multiple threads [1] [2] about this problem, but they have been closed with justifications akin to I personally find it neither challenging, nor fun, other than challenging my patience to put up with unpleasant and unfun things, and 2+ hours is not a reasonable amount of time for me to spend doing nothing but AFKing and CCing. At least quests like "hunt 999 monsters" is something where you engage in actual gameplay, and can make steady progress on. This is neither. If I go to do other things and come back later, I risk some obsessive NX farmer having farmed the boss in the meantime. I can't even plan when to come back, because there is no timer of any sort that could indicate when it's worth coming back. I would like to assess the opinion of the larger community if they consider it fun. Maybe I (and a few others who complained) am an outlier, and the larger community enjoys this activity. But if there is a large part of the community who also doesn't find this fun, maybe there is some kind of compromise we could make between making Olaf quests too easy, and an unfun chore you must force yourself through in order to get HP? I personally like the idea of a timer, even if it's a rough approximation. Sure it would enable NX hunters even more, but I honestly don't think it can get much worse, and it would remove the uncertainty aspect. I also like the idea of actively hunting monsters in the area decreasing the timer. That would add both the aspect of actively engaging in gameplay, and making steady progress, that I mentioned above.
There is some compromise. There’s a very common summoning bag called Super Monster Galore which comes from many gachapons and is around 15-20m that can spawn many of the early Olaf bosses Such As: King Clang Stumpy Tae Roon Snowman Faust Snack Bar Sage Cat? (not sure about this one) If you’re still having trouble I can spawn one and party you for the Olaf kill later if I can get online. There are also additional summoning bags for specifically: King Slime Jr. Balrog However the higher level bosses there’s no alternative and really suck such as: Leviathan Blue Mushmom All ToT bosses
I spent the past couple weeks going through all the Olaf quests casually as well as other things. Up until the second to last quest, I was completing them every day to every other day. The only mini boss I had a hard time finding was Eliza and Blue Mushmom. Luckily, there were alternate options. I disagree with making it easier or changing it in any way. As someone who hunts area bosses for NX, for cards, for quests and then just because I needed some for olaf - I do not struggle to find them. I dont spend hours sitting around waiting either. I pop in, I kill a few mobs, then CC. There are 20 channels, some bosses have multiple maps. There's a whole community at your hands - communicate with other people and you'll surely find people willing to cooperate and help you out. I would shout out in my guild that I found x area boss if anyone needed the kill. I offered to kill higher level ones for people, too. And they did the same for me. Sometimes I found random people CCing around and checking mapowner. I whispered them asking if they could let me party for the kill for Olaf. I made it clear they could keep all drops, I just need a kill count. People were more than happy to work with me for it and that's how I got a Blue Mushmom kill, and recently helped someone else get Deo (who I was killing for NX). I've been hunting area bosses for two days for NX (this count includes Pap 2x and ephenia/chao 2x each). Part of the fun is in hunting. And HP washing isn't easy, so Olaf quests aren't easy either.
Yeah, I ended up actually caving in and buying that item to get King Clang. But like you said, it's not a solution for every field boss. That's not my experience for the most part. Most of the time, all 20 channels are empty and have been farmed thoroughly. I cycled through multiple times. I guess different people have different luck with this, and it also depends on the boss in question. Should a mechanic that feels like a result of developer oversight and unfair balancing, and relies on things like leeching instead of actually playing the game be a benchmark for what's a good challenge? I guess different people have a different idea of fun. I would rather kill 2000 monsters for a quest item that summons the boss than sit idly and CC for 2-3 hours.
Keep in mind we're currently in Anniversary event where area bosses are hunted to extinction far more than usual. In a couple days things should hopefully calm down and bosses still won't be free to find, but at least a lot easier. Generally, I'd recommend checking all 20 channels and then doing something else for 30 minutes before checking again. You could also try a smega to see if anyone knows the timers and is willing to help
Man you should’ve been here when there was no other alternatives to HP except remaking your 9x-12x character when they learned its unplayable and unsalvageable. Olaf isn’t made to be an end all solution to HP questing. I think it’s great they added an additional outlet to gain a ton of HP and a cool questline that makes you feel like you’ve done all of the content Royals has to offer. Personally if you dislike Olaf that much just don’t do it an just do another 57 rounds rounds of HP questing for that extra 2k hp. They didn’t have to make Olaf, HP/MP potions in Rose Garden, buff daily HP quest, buff water of life, or even make daily hp quest. But they’re trying to find unique solutions that won’t break our existing meta as it’ll break the economy that has been in place for over a decade now. I think Staff has shown these past 4-5 years they want to make it easier for newer players to get HP rather than the classic first time 2014-2018 player experience: Make your nostalgia thief/bowman/pirate class and grind without care Get to 90-130 relatively unbothered in 1-2 months Join a guild/meet friends who are more veteraned Tell them you got like 4-5k hp and ask what level can you horntail Be told you can’t ever without someone willing to hyperbody you 24/7 Be told it’ll cost you like 5-6b to wash to even just 10k hp APQ wasnt fixed back then either, no way to make reliable mesos but leech Desperately crawl for 2-3months to get your mage and HS mule if you’re an AM to sell leech Sell leech for 2-3months to wash your first washed attacker By now it’s almost been 6-8 months and you might have a min HT washed attacker Try to join a krex/zak party and they ask for your range and they tell you you’re way too weak and gtfo go back to selling leech Go back to leech for 2-3 months for to farm for gear where they’ll actually accept you into a party It’s now been vaguely one year That being said: Feedback is still important and its valid you feel there could be improvements to Olaf questing I hope you have more fun doing the other parts of Olaf (like you said you like killing 999) Hopefully after the event you’ll be able to find those bosses more easily
For several ppl in here "have fun" is not all theyre looking for, many came looking for a nostalgic experience, wich include some weird experiences that end up creating fond memories. I remember thinking for weeks that pianus was a myth back then cs i wasnt able to find it for weeks, and justify myself " it doesnt even look like any other of the mobs/bosses in this game, the videos out there might be edits, or it might be just a kms boss" Anyway, your opinion is totally respectable (specially the way you redacted your FB thread) but someone could have the exact oposite opinion and it would be as respectable too. I can bet anything that theres some ppl who will say that: "hunting 1k mobs is plain stupid, repetitive and a horrible idea for a quest that can be done solo if you manage to dont fall asleep, wich doesnt make sense cs it doesnt promote party play, just make the quest annoying" while saying " If the quest was about hunting for a boss would be more fun cause it feels like a real quest, that might promote party play, cooperation, and gives a feeling of succes after you finally conquer it"( not my opinions, just setting an example) I can empathize, i hate JQ with every inch of my soul, while most ppl in this server finds them fun/ challenging or even boring cs theyre "easy to do". I just have to accept that theyre horrible to me.
This was literally me lol I made my NL, got to 160ish without washing, and then I was told "You're not going to have enough HP for HT" I had to start wearing int on level-up and washing whatever I could just to squeeze out every last bit of HP Hit 200 with a whopping 8K HP. Made an i/l mage, HS mule, SE mule, and bishop. Started farming and making money I started making a bucc and started HP washing that while making a new assassin on the side I dont even want to think about how much mesos I put into that bucc, who is now 138 with 11k MP and 13.5k HP - enough MP to wash to 30k Area boss hunting is far, far easier it just takes some patience. Keep in mind the respawn times and cycle every channel. Use a summon bag. Network with other players. The game is an MMO - there's roughly several hundred to a thousand people online. Get a smega and ask, ask your guildmates, ask someone if you see them CCing around or if they have mapowner. Sure it's annoying, but HP washing as a mechanic is even more annoying and time consuming. Coming back six years later I'm incredibly grateful for these quests.
Yeah, don't get me wrong, it's definitely better than HP washing. Yeah, I think this is the most efficient method, although boss hunting parties seem somewhat harder to organize than PQ parties. Does the boss count for the quest as long as you are in the party who killed it, and on the same map, even if you don't do any damage to it? Making sure that every party member did damage to it sounds like a pain. Anyway, the results are speaking for themselves, the vast majority seems to enjoy boss hunting, so I concede defeat.
i did this on 3 characters in the last year or so and i only struggled with a few of the area bosses. i dont think adding a few additional alternative tasks for some of these quests is a bad idea but i'd like to keep the area bosses in the quest too. maybe add more jump quests to the tasks?
Well, here's a vote for no. I tried hunting Mano on 3 separate occasions to start off the Olaf quests and each time, on all 20 channels, none could be found. I can't imagine how much more tedious and annoying it would be trying to find a boss with a long respawn timer (Pianus, Blue Mushmom). Personally, I'd rather do jump quests lol.
For the sake of transparency, having just completed Adventurer's Assignment IV, I have to report that I had much better luck with hunting the latter half of area bosses. Could be that I simply had better luck, but could also be that higher level field bosses aren't being exploited as much as lower level ones.
The Adventuerer Assignement questline includes 28 Area boss hunting tasks in total. However each quest does not require you to complete all of the additional tasks. So there is already some room to exclude some area boss tasks. Let's see how many area bosses really have to be hunted if you want to avoid it as much as possible. An Adventurer's Assignment 1 requires 5 of 7 additonal tasks and two of the area bosses can be spawned with a Brand New Monster Galore summoning bag. 0 Area bosses have to be hunted here. Kill Mano (Brand New Monster Galore) Kill Stumpy (Brand New Monster Galore) Kill Deo An Adventurer's Assignment 2 requires 7 of 9 additonal tasks and one of the area bosses can be spawned with a Brand New Monster Galore summoning bag. 1 Area boss has to be hunted here. Kill Timer Kill Faust Kill Seruf Kill King Clang (Brand New Monster Galore) An Adventurer's Assignment 3 requires 8 of 11 additonal tasks and one of the area bosses can be spawned with a Brand New Monster Galore summoning bag. 3 Area bosses have to be hunted here. Kill Mushmom Kill Zombie Mushmom Kill Dyle Kill Zeno Kill Nine-Tailed Fox Kill Tae Roon (Brand New Monster Galore) Kill King Sage Cat An Adventurer's Assignment 4 requires 8 of 10 additonal tasks and two of the area bosses can be spawned with a Brand New Monster Galore summoning bag and one can be spawned with a black sack. 1 Area boss has to be hunted here. Kill Jr. Balrog (Black sack) Kill Eliza (Brand New Monster Galore) Kill Snackbar Kill Chimera (Magatia, requires a teleport to the map or complete the questline) Kill Snowman (Brand New Monster Galore) Kill Blue Mushmom An Adventurer's Assignment 5 requires 7 of 9 additonal tasks and one of the area bosses (Crimson Balrog) is lowkey instanced because no one really travels by ship so there is no competetion. Additionally Big Foot has many maps to spawn on. So let's count these two as only 1 area boss. 2 Area bosses have to be hunted here. Kill Crimson Balrog Kill Griffey Kill Pianus Kill Bigfoot Kill Black Crow An Adventurer's Assignment 6 requires 8 of 10 additonal tasks. 1 Area boss have to be hunted here. Kill Kachuu Musha Kill Leviathan Kill Female Boss An Adventurer's Assignment 7 does not have an Area boss hunting task. An Adventurer's Assignment 8 requires 8 of 10 additonal tasks. 1 Area boss have to be hunted here. Kill Dodo Kill Lilynouch Kill Lyka An Adventurer's Assignment 9 and 10 do not have Area boss hunting tasks. All in all the minimum of Area bosses to be hunted is 9, which doesn't seem too troublesome. The anniversary event made area boss hunting a bit more competetive as mentioned before becaause of the coin mobs spawning from them. I've done the Adventurer's Assignment questlines multiple times ingame and never really had much of an issue with the area bosses myself. I also wouldnt recommend to keep CCing for long if you could find any after two channel cycles. Do something else and come back later instead. From the votes it seems the community even likes to hunt these bosses for the questline. Nevertheless, thanks for your feedback!
