Hello, After discussing with my fellow axe buddies we have come up with the following suggestions: 1. Tomahawk and Dragon axe speed change from normal to fast. 2. Tavar speed change from slow to fast, add DEX requirement: 110, Dragon battle axe speed change from slow to normal. (changing Tavar to fast will make it just 90% strong as ST in terms of total damage) @Matt @Michael @Katsuruka Thanks. IronWill
Axes are meant to slower and cheaper than swords They also have unstable damage, so even with these changes, they'll still be worse than swords damage-wise
Instead of tailoring specific axes to be more like swords, why not just buff all axes? Adding a +watk bonus to axe mastery would be a single universal change for axe users, and would keep with the "slow but strong" theme that a lot of people recognize axes for.
Perhaps a % attack bonus on the axe mastery? The only concern with increasing flat damage on axes to match sword output, you will be greatly devaluing scrolling them. As it is, a perfect 35 attack on an Axe is much less in comparison than the power given by a perfect gun or claw. The higher base attack will make the difference even less worthwhile.
To address some of the non-OP posts in this thread so far: The point of the suggestion wasn't to make them equal or better than Swords, it was to make them not quite as atrocious as they currently are; off memory, your average Hero using an Axe drops all the way down the relative DPS charts to be around the strength of your average Snipe20 Marksman. That being said, I think that a weapon-class-wide buff wouldn't be necessary, since your DPS is largely something that doesn't matter before 4th job, by which point you'd only be using the higher leveled weapons (see: Tomahawk/Dragon Axe if 1handed, Colonian Axe/Tavar/Dragon Battle Axe if 2handed). As for the changes to the Axe Mastery skill suggestion, I don't think that's really possible (though I wouldn't know for certain). On to the actual suggestion, a change in attack speeds would probably balance the scales well enough to make Axes viable but still off-meta, however I won't promise anything for you. PS: Spoiler Why wasn't I a part of your axe buddy conversation? I'm actually hybrid and was meaning to make an axe at some point for kicks... I feel hurt. Hurt and betrayed.
First of all, thanks for taking care of this matter, i really appreciate it. Secondly, i dont have much time in game because of military service but i did tag you in the first post asking for your opinion on the following change http://royals.ms/forum/threads/suggestion-a-unique-1h-or-2h-axe-for-the-loyal-axe-users.21136/page-4
want to see if this thread is still alive or any updates from michael? sent a suggestion to matt a couple weeks back but no response hoping for the best for axe users though!