FM Spot Botting/Autoclicking Solution

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    Hey Admins and GMs,

    Problem: There are "afk" autoclickers/Botters hanging around FM by stealing FM spots. The worst part is that they hold the spot with a "mid"-opened shop(the process where you put your items to sell) for the LONGEST amount of time, which means they were afk AND using a sophisticated Bot to do the work for them.

    Solution: Mapleroyals should use the idea of Teleporting the character back to FM entrance after some amount of time (say 20~30min) to discourage botting in FM.

    Note: I believe in GlobalMS whenever you've spammed to open a permit/shop and failed or you have your spot "mid"-opened for sometimes you'd get teleported back to Fm entrance.

    Feel free to comment additional questions and feedback!
     
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    Agree with this. The fact that they don't really sell things but to sell spot is quite annoying.
     
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    If you believe they are afk and yet took the spot, you should whisper them and check if they are there. This should be immediately after they take the spot. If they don't reply, then it might be evidence for a ban.

    I don't see how your solution prevents them from stealing spots and selling them anyways. Your solution solves the problem of spot hogging, which I believe is a different issue.
     
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    @Geyforlife I agree, this won't solve stealing spot and selling them. The solution would resolve:
    1) Spot hogging
    2) Botters whom leave their "Fm Bot" overnight/long period of time to camp/steal spots

    Although, this wouldn't be something strict enough to Ban them, but it would only discourage/frustrate the botters.
     
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    Although I do agree with this method (only because I don't open my shop at room 1 to 3)
    I don't think all of the FMers will agree to this solution, as some wish to hog the spot by not opening the store (maybe for friends)
    (which is another problem of confusing the Staff between spot hoggers/botters)
    Source: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/free-market-spot-afk-camp-hog-selling-shenanigans.155940/

    If we gonna set up a timer to limit the duration of 'mid-opened shop', I would strongly recommend placing a timer (counter showing duration left) during the setup to be fair to the player that is hogging the spot for a friend
     
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    Just an example scenario

    Supposed if a player hog the spot - maybe for preparation or for friend, he's not a botter
    Does he have to reply to other players when being prompted with stuff such as:
    "hello?"
    "are you there?"
    "are you botting?"

    Cause I am not really sure if this can be considered proof/evidence of someone is botting if the said player chose to ignore others
     
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    You are right. It's circumstantial. But the person better have a good reason for ignoring suspicion. Also, I wrote that it has to be immediately after the spot is taken because that's when you know for sure the person cannot be afk. I can totally understand when a person is reserving the spot for a friend and is simply afk on the mule. That is totally understandable. That's why it has to be immediately after the spot is taken.
     
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    This FM Hoarding or trying to steal any spots is what makes the Mapleroyals experience really awful.
    Made me quit for some weeks, because some people just want to profit of another people, by any cost.
    Thanks for that actually LOL

    Sad thing is, that are mostly people hiding behind there mules, because they dont wanna get bad reputation if people knew their real char :( (Which are probably really high leveled)
     
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    Why does anybody really care about spots tbh? The only people browsing are merchants, most people just owl don't they?
     
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    With a good fm Spot i've got a higher chance to sell "unseen" or "unpopular" or different color items.
    Example : Any earrings higher than lvl 30, most sold earrings would be like Single Earring, Amethyst Earrings or Gold Earring.
    There are like 39 different Earrings in MapleRoyals, any of that could be quite good scrolled.
    Same would go for some Warrior Gloves scrolled too.
    Actually alot of people browsing FM, its like shopping ^^.
     
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    I suppose, when I'm scrolling I typically scroll popular items that people owl for or smega for offbeat merch, so maybe that doesn't apply to me.
     
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    @UrbanJuggernaut Currently, Owl's doesn't show you ALL items in FM only how much it can query.
     
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    There is a mechanic implemented to prevent this to some extent, Players who spam their shop permit get disconnected from the client after a few too many failed attempts.

    Unfoortenantly, From the first-hand experience with shop botters, This mechanic doesn't work on people who are indeed using a bot, as they won't disconnect. I believe in runs on some type of indicator that allows the software to grab a spot based on open space available as soon as the spot isn't held by anyone. That's just my own speculation based on observation.

    While camping isn't a bannable offense it is highly frowned upon. Here some ways you could take actions against your spot being taken:
    • Just because the shop timer is 24 hours, Don't mean you have to wait until the last few hours or minutes to reset it. Make sure to keep your reset time random to keep people guessing.
    • Have the habit of being afk while on your shop for a few good minutes before actually resetting it. Don't make your reset so obvious.
    • If someone is on your spot for longer then normal there is a chance they might be just afk. Pay attention to where their character is standing.
    • When resetting your shop, use a mule or a buddy. Have the mule stand on top of your shop with the title of your shop ready. as soon as you drop your shop, pick it up with your mule, then trade it back to your main character.
    • If you suspect someone is gunning for your spot, take several timestamps of his char standing there for several hours. Make sure the screenshots are not cropped or edited and that the camper character is visible.
    • If you are suspecting someone is a botter, have your shop reset recorded via video while using a mule and a friend to back you up. If the shop has been successfully taken from you at an unreasonable speed whisper the person to see if they are physically there while still recording. If you have your own mule and a friend as a backup and still fail to grab the spot- you might actually have enough evidence to get this person banned, take all your evidence and use the Report Abuse thread at forums and tell your side in great detail while presenting screenshots and video evidence.
    • Make sure to actually talk to the person on your spot. You would be surprised how many times you can reason with a camper. They are not all bad people and might have their own reasons for being there.
    • If all else fails, post on Comunity BlackList and warn other players.
    While having your spot snipped mid reset is an unpleasant experience, It's not a common practice in most fm's, and the number of people that are actually would go to the extent of using a bot or camp you, it is small.
     
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