Many people want to transfer their guild leader rank. Some, they're leader quit and they want to keep the guild going but are severely hindered by the inabilities of not having a Master. Or in my case, I would rather transfer the leader to another character so I don't have to lose all the progress (GPQ, Money into Emblem, Slots, etc) I've made on it without being forced to disband. Other servers have done this, I'm not sure how they did it, but I believe it should be an option, maybe also requesting Guild Leader for inactive leaders, essentially the same issue. Yes or No?
Usually GMs and Admins stay out of guilf affairs and I haven't seen them deviate from their decision unless it was something like glitched alliances.
The ability for a guild leader to transfer leadership to another player is something I don't have issue with. I believe the precedent as it is currently set, however, is to not allow guild leadership transfer at all. What I am completely against is guild leadership transfer from an "inactive" member. What defines someone as inactive? And what right does one Jr. have over any of the other Jrs. in the guild to transfer leadership to them? Questions such as those would induce too much drama and effort for the staff to get involved in and why I am against that reason for guild leadership transfer.
Then what I propose is an option for the Guild Leader him/herself to transfer the leadership to another member. No drama involved, just stepping down. I get the inactive drama and I see how that could cause a lot of problems, but I still think it's necessary to have a transfer of hierarchy without going through the huge trouble of remaking the entire guild just for a simple change in leadership.
Could always do what I did: Gather active members at the Guild HQ place. Do a StrawPoll for the guild name. Do a StrawPoll for the guild leader. Look out for other active members who weren't online at the time to get them back. That's what my guildies and I did when our leader went inactive and completely uninterested. If it is a tight-knit guild or whatever, then this should work easily.
That's A LOT easier said than done. Especially if I'm leader and just want to transfer leadership to another character or person. It's unnecessary to have to go through the trouble of remaking the entire guild from scratch, losing all the progress and time initially invested in the guild.
The only thing that you're really losing out on is the mesos it takes to actually make+expand the guild, and your GPQ rock points. I know that personally, "time invested" into a guild is more time invested into friends. The guild doesn't matter so long as you all/mostly end up in the same place. But that's just me! I get both sides of this, really. It seems like an option to step down as a leader and pass it to someone else would be natural and helpful, but it's not really all THAT hard to pass over and remake a guild either; when I last did it, we had the old leader stay in the old guild since they were going inactive anyway and just leave a message in the Guild Notice scroller what to do when people logged on.
I was under the impression the guild leader went MIA. But if the guild members are active and close to each other, what I said earlier is not terribly difficult to do. I did it. As Mike said, the only thing you are really losing is mesos. BBS history is not really a big deal.. just rewrite what is important. Guild points only really matters if you actually had a decent rank on the Rock of Honor.
I'd forgotten about BBS History, so thanks for that, Tommy. Also, one of the guilds that I've had to answer why leader transfer wasn't available was #1 on the Rock at the time, which was the largest reason that they didn't want to remake. Figured I'd throw that out there in response to what danman said above me.
I get that it's perfectly possible to remake and all this stuff is not all that important, but the only thing I'm saying is that it would be easier and more appealing if there were a simple solution. I get that BBS, the mesos, and guild rank points aren't the biggest issue, I'm just trying to make a suggestion that would make things simpler, isn't that what this is for? If it's simpler and not game-breaking in ANY way, shape or form, I don't see why this needs to be such a crucial issue. We want Royals to be the best don't we? That's why we're here. Trying to improve on this server, not trying to ruin it. It's a small addition that I'm sure people would like. That's all. -Farid (Phone)
Thats what i was thinking all the time when reading this. Dont make it a gm thing, and the Leader has to do it personally. The point of mesos 20m isnt big Deal but isnt necesarry either. If you realy have a guild Leader that quits without giving his Lead to someone else you just joined the wrong guild and you have to remake. This way its fair for the ppl who care about their own Guilds and want to keep em living. If we had this we would still give ppl Red Bulls.... Right? @Marty
Can completely agree with GM's not being involved, that was never my intention in the first place, just want an easy way to transfer guild leader in-game, whether it be free, using mesos, or whatever.
