Help - Hp wash bishop

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    Hello!,

    According Bishop guild 2019 by joon:
    HP Washing Goals
    3.5k~5.5k HP / 18,500k MP


    Part 1 : Gaining More Mana Pool!
    Step 1 - Add Fresh AP Into MANA
    This will Give u an Additional Amount of MP into your Base MP Stats
    Step 2 - USE 1x AP RESET , Minus Mana Stats into INT.
    If you Notice Carefully, u Would have Gain a Small amount of additional MANA @ this step.
    Step 3 - Repeat For Moar MANA!!!

    Part 2 : Transfer that Additional MANA into HP
    Step 1 - Add Fresh AP Into MANA
    This will Once Again Give u anAdditional Amount of MP into your Base MP Stats
    Step 2 - USE 1x AP RESET , Minus ManaStats into HP.
    U Will Gain An Certain Amount of HPby Losing some of those Mana Stats.


    My question:
    I found out late about hp wash Bishop and I'm newbie with HP WASH.
    i sort of know about HP WASH, i don't know what to do or how to do it and how much AP reset i need.
    My bishop is lvl 154 without any hp wash.
    Can i still Hp wash him?
    if yes i'll glad to know HOW. (how to do it and how long to do it). What is the formula to check if i'm doing this right and don't lose mp like a noob.
    my goal is survive HT without any worries.

    I'd be grateful if you could help me with that.
    Thanks you a lot!
     
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    Yup!

    Natural HP for magician: Level*12 + 52

    Natural MP for magician: +23 MP per level up and 2*Improved MaxMP Increase level MP per level up

    Minimum MP for magician: Level*22+488

    So I actually made a spreadsheet to calc this stuff. I'll run one for you, assuming average HP, average MP, and no int gear. Also that you're lukless of course.

    So the thing about magicians is that their minimum MP is actually super low.

    Want to afk in Horntail with Magic Guard? Then I'd recommend 7.5k HP, which you could get by level 160:

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    Level 160 7.5k HP, 4k MP, almost 6b in AP Resets total.

    But you probably want more MP.

    So here's level 200:

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    Level 200 7.5k HP, 28k MP, 8.5b in AP Resets total.

    Of course, you'll probably have more MP because your equipment has int on them. I just don't know your equip stats so I left int gear blank.

    You can play with my own spreadsheet here.
     
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    First I have to say it helps me so much, Thank you very much.

    I would like to hear your advice for HP wash bishop.
    I removed all my equips and the result was:
    HP - 1914, MP- 14498.

    My stats:
    base int - 788
    int gear - 185
    and i have MW20.
    Total magic with MW20 - 1276.

    This is my first class i opened.
    I want to achieve 10+int Mask, 20+tma cape and GEN30. ( for 1Hit skele )
    all this will take me 4b i hope (cuz GEN30).

    I have few opetions:

    1. Buy items and Gen30 to 1HIT skele Then hp wash.
    Here picture: ( start wash from lvl 165 cuz getting items + gen30. Rough estimate. thats look possible)
    Bishop HP Wash.png
    2. Buy Gen30 and leveling up to add int for 1HIT skele then hp wash.
    *1295 1HIT skele with gen30 so i need 4 levels to add int then i can HP wash.
    Here picture: ( too much mp i think )
    Bishop HP Wash 2.png

    3. Hp wash from lvl 154 and only 1hit ulu2.

    what do u suggest?
    and if hp wash him to 7500?

    Thats expensive but i think this will pay off for me late game for running ht and other bosses without worries.

    Thanks you alot, and sorry for the hassle.
     
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    It's awesome to see that you screenshotted your own calcs! Even more awesome that you put in all your information, since I was honestly pretty worried it may be too confusing for other people to use even though I tried to make it as simple as possible. So it makes me happy to see you did your own calculations with it! ~f2

    You can actually HP wash at any level you want (using AP Resets to -MP +HP over and over and over).

    The only thing you have to make sure you do is that after you level, you put your fresh AP in MP and before you level up again, use 5 AP Resets to -MP +int so those 5 AP you used to MP wash about back in int before you level up again.

    AP Resets cost 3100 NX each and you need 5 of them each time you level up before you should level up again, which is 15,500 NX per level up. Assuming you vote every day, you only need two days of voting to pay for your MP washing. Or if you want to buy your AP Resets, 5 AP Resets are 75m. So you can buy them with two hours of leech.

    Do this!

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    This is your lowest cost to a 7.5k HP 30k MP level 200 magician. You don't need 30k MP of course. If you want less MP, you'll save money. But some people like have 30k HP/MP to make it perfect.

    19 magic until 1 hit skele with Gen 30 you said. Need 4 level ups (19 AP in int) to start 1 hit skeles. So 1 hit skeles at level 158.

    Level 154 now. Start MP washing at level 161.

    I suggest:
    1. Buy Gen 30
    2. Level up to level 158. Put all fresh AP in int each level up.
    3. Level up to level 161. Put all fresh AP in int each level up.
    4. Level up to 200. Put all fresh AP in MP each level up. Remember to use 5 AP Resets to -MP +int before you level up again.

    A 7.5k HP 30k MP bishop is really useful! You never have to worry about dying in HT. You can even touch the tail with Invincible buff if you really needed to, like saving seduce mule if they're going to die. An HP washed bishop means you're very reliable and really will never die. Unless dispelled so no Magic Guard AND you get 1/1 AND you get hit again. But that's veryyyyy unlikely.

    You're welcome a lot and you're not a hassle. :D
     
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    I'm speechless.
    i'll do as you say, cuz you are the best!.
    Thanks
    for the quick answer, for the investment.
    you helped me a lot and i'm sure this thread will serve others.

    1 last question:
    after i'm adding fresh ap into mana then before leveling up use 5 ap reset -MP + int.
    when ap reset -mp + Hp?
    doing as i think with MINMP mage? or wait until 200?
     
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    im not the best ~f4 but something tells me u shld start ap resetting -mp +hp when u get near 30k mp
     
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    You should AP Reset doing -MP +HP any time between now until level 199 and any time you start getting close to 30k MP!

    You can HP wash at level 200 of course, but then you won't have 30k MP because you're doing -MP +HP and you can't level up more to gain more MP haha.

    So yeah, DON'T wait until level 200 if you want 30k MP.

    And you want to use AP Resets -MP +HP when you're getting close to 30k MP because you want to hit 30k MP at level 200 only.

    If you hit 30k MP earlier, you're losing the extra MP you would gain and use to wash!

    You're going to have 29,440 MP at level 183, so I'd say when you get to level 183, use 336 AP Resets to -MP +HP. (Costs 5b). You'll have 19,360 MP left after this.

    And then you just keep leveling up like normal, putting your fresh AP in MP, using 5 AP Resets to -MP +int before you level up again.

    And you'll naturally end up with 7.5k HP, 30k MP at level 200!

    Indeed!! Just decided to take a look at when that would happen for him hehe!
     
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    Thanks you both!
    I was so confused about hp wash, now because of you I feel like I actually know what i'm doing.

    Thanks A lot! :)
     
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    Hey can you also do one for me I am a 157 bs with like 2.2k+ hp and 21k+ Mp with full gear I also have 15 fresh ap available. I wanted to know if I utilize every known trick for washing what is my potential stats looking like? My goal is 20k hp and 30k Mp but I want to see what’s your approximate guess based on your formula. One of my rings also have +200 hp (zombie ring) plus master adventurer. Also I don’t have the best of best equips. I have gen 20 the rest just kinda average. By 200 what is a potential if I’m willing to spend anything and do the best method available.
     
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    Hi, I would suggest you spend your mesos on gen30 and mw20 because it is cheap now. Mw20 gives you additional INT which helps you to get more MP everytime u level-ed.
    With Mw20 and Gen30 you will be easily to 1-hit Skele with approximately 1290 tma. Selling skele leech is a very good income (110m/hr from buyers and 20-30m from npc). I would suggest you suicide everytime to keep your level as low as possible because this will benefit your buyers with gaining more experiences.

    For the washing part, add your fresh ap to mp and ap-reset them to INT/LUK. If you are already able to 1-hit skeles I will recommend you to ap-reset after u approach to 30k mana and sp-reset your 1st job "Improve Max MP Increase" so that everytime you spend 20 mana to reset to INT instead of 30.

    Im not sure if you are able to reach 20k hp and 30k mp, but 15k hp with 30k mp shouldnt be any problem.
     
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    Ty lots I will also look for more information on washing to to further improve progress.
     
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    Hi all,
    first of all sorry to necro this post but I've just returned to the game after a few years in absence and I'm kinda lost.
    I heard HP washing for bishop is recommended for end game bosses and I wanna know if Im still able to do it.
    I read the comments above and now I feel like my stats are really low, as it follows:

    174 bishop
    160 int gear
    888 base int
    4 base luk
    mw 10
    gen 30
    2402 HP
    17161 MP

    am I still be able to increase both HP and MP?
    I feel like 4-5k hp and 25k MP should be alright

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    Quiero Aser un obispo con 30k MP a lv 135
     
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    You should be able to make your goals just barely. What you need to do for the next 10 levels is put all your fresh AP into Mana, and leave it there. At lv 184, use 10 1st job SP resets to reduce maxmp increase to 0. Then, use 49 APRs to -mp +int. Use aprs on -mp +hp until you're at your target hp, then use one final APR to -mp +int again. Use another 10 1st job SP resets to bring maxmp increase back to 10.

    After this, you can just +5 MP, then immediately use 5 APRs to -mp + int until you're at your desired mana.
     

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