Hp washing night lord

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    Yes, this is yet another how to hp wash Night lord questions.

    Re-ran my numbers through the calculator just now to make sure i'm still on track, however i realized some stuff that's not very clear.

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    Following the above, i did everything to level 45, however i dont really understand what comes after.

    From level 45 to 105, it says i should pump 535 AP into HP or Luk.
    Question: HP or LUK? wasn't it supposed to be only + HP, then - MP and +LUK/DEX?
    Question: (105-46)*5 = 295 APs possible. Where did the additional 240 AP come from?

    From level 136 to 200, pump 535 AP into HP.
    Question: Similar to the above, (200-136)*5 = 320 AP, again, where did the additional 215 AP come from? Am i missing something here?

    P.S. i'm very sorry about asking something that's probably been asked over and over again, however i couldnt find any similar cases to mine in the forums, and the discord/shoutbox is rather inconvenient to ask (ignored).
     
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    Bumpity bump?
     
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    When you are HP washing a thief class, we know by now that adding AP into HP directly gives more HP than using AP reset on MP then + on HP.
    Ultimately there's no difference whether you add APs into HP early or later. However, this gives one 2 options to choose from.

    First of all, 180 lvls (your target level to achieve goal HP) of AP gain would give 900 total APs.

    So in this case you need 535 total APs into HP stat to achieve your Goal HP. However, where will the remaining (900 - 535) APs go? They'd end up in your main stat (luk/dex). Calculator assumes that you will find necessary dex equips and doesn't include how much AP should be added to dex. It just recommends you to add the remaining APs (that are not needed for HP washing) into main stat, Luk. No matter what you do with 900 - 535 = 365 APs, as long as you end up adding 535 AP into HP stat, you will achieve your HP washing goal (ofc provided you have enough mana).


    Lets look at a scenario.
    One might want to get zhelm early, at level 50 for lets say... 30+ int scrolled zhelm, to lessen the burden of int gear expense. If you leech the char all the way past 135 lvl (typical leeching story) and delay the HP washing till the character's lvl is high enough, by lvl 50, the character would have insufficient HP to survive in zak because it'll be sitting only with its naturally gained HP and unused fresh APs.

    However, since there is no difference in HP gain (through AP addition to HP stat) at earlier or later levels, one can add fresh AP into HP stat even at earlier level (lvl45 onward).
    Not any earlier because you'd want to reach the target base int as early as possible to benefit most out of it.


    Lvl 45~105: All AP into HP or LUK (535 AP into HP total)

    Lvl 136~200: All AP into HP or LUK (535 AP into HP total)


    Both of these instructions are basically referring to the fact that you can add total of 535 AP into HP in whatever time frame you prefer.

    If you want more HP for survival, you should use the early gained APs into HP.

    If you want more damage for easier 2nd/3rd job advance, you should postpone the addition of AP into HP and add early APs into luk.

    I dunno why the calculator specifically wants you to MP wash from lvl 106~135 and not lvl 45~74 because it would make no difference. You can start and finish MP wash as soon as you have all the target base int. I guess shiyui programmed it so that MP washing is to be done later just before 135 (bossing level)?
     
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    Huh, so that's why my calculations were off. Thanks so much sparky!
     

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