Today I disconnected @ HT after a heavy lag. GM Fryslan told me that because only 2 people d/c'd and because my client shut down after there wasn't a server lag but an issue with my client and therefore no warp back. I gfx'd as I should and didn't have any problems with it except the 3..4 hard server lags that everyone inside HT felt. And on the last one I disconnected and my client shut down. Now I find this to be really unfair that after all the lags and unplayable hours and times every day for the past weeks when I d/c at a for me critical moment I get the cold hand from the GM online while other players get warped on a daily basis in and out and in again. And this fact makes me really disapointed and angry. Make no mistake I am not claiming favoritism, what I am asking my self and you the GM's is how can the you GM's decide so differently? Even during this same HT run, 2 others got warped in and I didn't. It is insane! This makes me not want to play if it is going to be so unfair amongst players! Either you warp in or you don't, do not cherry pick like this.
Sounds like you DCed because of a graphical glitch that most likely has to do with playing Royals on an NVIDIA graphics card. This is an issue on your side.
We do not cherry pick anyone. We have guidelines for when we are allowed to warp. Since we've had a lot of server lags in the past few days, people dced due to those lags. Our guidelines say are allowed to warp due to server failure, thus these people got warped. Lots of people on my own HT runs DC too, same with zakum. However, these DCs are not due to server failure (Server failure is where it crashes or the whole server lags and kicks people off, or for some classes FAST ATTACK kick) These people, like yourself, don't get warped back.
Does it matter if you have guidelines if not all GMs follow them? What is a "server failure" exactly? What and who determines what exactly that means and which players got affected by it? I find it disturbing that people that didn't even start in a HT run can get a warp and I that d/c'd after a server lag (as it seemed to me, I have been here since may 2013 ok it's not like I joined yesterday) can't get a warp. It is I N S A N E ! And I hope you all that know my past appreciate how hard I try to keep this civilized right now.
when did anyone ever get warped into horntail after not starting the run? I don't think they are willing to give you a warp, because no one else experience lag at the same time as you.
I do not have an NVIDIA card and I got the same issue as saki did today, but I have not had issues in previous HT runs. I, however, was warped back into HT after my first d/c. See my thread in report bug, if you would like. I don't think anyone's gotten a warp into HT when they didn't start the run. That's clearly outside the policy of the staff. Server failure as far as i've been lead to believe means massive lag that DC's a large number of players. Fastatk is explicitly NOT included - I've seen many zak run DC's be told they cannot get a rewarp, as that's caused by lag on their end, not the server's.
The only time I've seen anyone warp people into horntail was when the /majority/ of the party d/ced. Even in the midst of re-warping a party yesterday, Wolfix d/ced just from a normal crash on his side and I couldn't, and thus didnt, rewarp him back a second time. A "server failure" is what we consider a /mass dc/. When more than half of your squad d/ced from the run and you've only got a couple people left, then yes, people will get re-warped. @jmmainvi I just recently got clarification on this fastattack thing, and we all agreed that from here on out people who legitimately get d/ced from fast attack at bosses will get re-warped now. This was unclear before and I apologize for that!
Just now the exact same thing happened. Server lag and client just closed down. You can try and blame it on what you want but in reality it is heavy server side lag.
You told me that since the client shut down it was client sided. That is not true. Hence my new post here after it happen again 15 times today.
I'm sorry if this is random or out of topic, but I don't really understand why people can't get rewarped into their boss after a d/c, in general. Yes, a rewarp should definitely be warranted when the disconnection is a result of a server problem, but why not for a disconnection on the player's side? Why are the rewarps granted based on fault (server's vs. player's)? It isn't the player's fault if their internet crashed, or if they have a slightly less than ideal graphics card. It's something that they can't control. And it's not like they can just immediately buy a gamer's graphic card just to boss at zakum or horntail without lagging, or get a different internet carrier just for maplestory. Zakum only allows for two runs within 24 hours. Does that mean a random, out of the blue dc, is a "suck for you" kind of rejection for the opportunity to participate? Personally, most of the time, when I d/c, I don't even know why. Sometimes it is a result of the server, sometimes (rarely) my internet glitches out, but other times, I just suddenly d/c from my character randomly with no lag at all. Or, I'd simply be walking through a map, and my entire client just randomly shuts down. This has happened for me a couple times during zakum, as well: no lag whatsoever, on my end, or any of my party members, but sudden d/c. It's completely random, and sudden. This wouldn't be a problem on my end, but it wouldn't be a server lag/dc problem either. So who's side is it on? And how do you decide? And I know for certain that most of those random d/c's aren't a result of my computer or my internet. Most of the time when I play, I usually have a small something playing while I am on Maple that is completely unaffected even as I randomly d/c or gfx through a lag spike, such as YouTube, or iTunes; I think we can all agree that playing some music on your computer doesn't lag gameplay, and if it does, it affects both the gameplay and the music enough to know that it is our fault. Sorry if this sounds malicious in any way, it is not intended to. It's just something that I've always been wondering since I got to bossing level, and was confused about.
If the Staff wishes to continue with having a certain rewarp policy, then this (or a similar approach) is the only way to go. Only something like that would define clear boundries, and until then the statement below will always be questionable.
About time ... I got told a week ago fast attack = no warpback ... as if these issues were client sided
Not sure what you're on but I explained to you when you get a warp and when you don't get one. To be fair, we don't have to warp anyone. I'm not going to repeat myself over and over again. When you didn't get a warp, you didn't deserve one.
@SAKI If you want to Horntail without your client closing on you because of graphical glitches ( they even happen when they are not visible to you) consider reading/using my guide: http://royals.ms/forum/threads/how-to-horntail-without-graphical-glitches-closing-your-client.16643/ Your client will most likely close again if you attempt to Horntail with your current setup. You've been informed that you won't get a warp for this because it's not a server wide DC issue. The best thing you can do here is help yourself preventing from getting booted.
Generally speaking dc from bossing happens, now i know certain graphic cards don't work in HT and it's a known problem so getting a warp for that seems pointless but i myself dc from zak randomly from times to times from things that i know are not in my end. It sucks having wasted time and then for some reason you dc and sometimes i'm the only one that dc even worse cause then i can't get a warp because of a rule that says if i dc solo it's my fault. I can't fix the dc but i also know you have your guidelines to follow without them i can see a lot of abuse of ~gm being done, i would like more leniency to the warp rule but i wouldn't abuse the rule either.