Is it better to buy or scroll int/mage equips?

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    I remember losing about 400m from trying to scroll 12 att wg's. I can imagine that it's worse for int equips because it costs so much. I'm aware it's all about luck but any advice?
     
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    It's really a 50/50. You can get the higher regulated price of scrolled items, or gamble on getting it for cheaper scrolling or losing it all.

    My suggestion, if you can afford it (safely), then try to scroll (but don't be greedy unless you're rich). If you can't, then definitely just buy a scrolled item.
     
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    No offense but your approach to scrolling WGs was extremely poor (30% on clean WG lol) and was very very very unlikely to yield a profit. I wouldn't compare that to scrolling other items as you can scroll things with a much greater likelihood of success and significantly larger potential profit margins from a more reasonable investment.
     
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    Why do you think my approach was poor? I tried using 10% and it cost more than 1 30%
     
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    I don't think it was poor-I know it was poor. Too high of an investment for too little potential return. If you look at the numbers 10% are a better option than 30% are on clean WG.

    Clean WG = 3m
    10% = 1m

    Clean WG = 3m
    30% = 15-20m

    3 att 4 slot WG = 25m, 30m tops.

    Using 30% you're essentially investing 18-23m for a 30% chance at a 25m return if the scroll lands.

    Instead, and just for example, think about scrolling bath robes for INT.

    30% = 35-40m
    Robe = 100k?

    10% = 7-8m
    Robe = 100k?

    5 int 9 slot robe = 90-100m


    Notice any distinct differences? In terms of profitability 10% (on the first slot) are the way to go with these items, and the potential return on scrolling int robes is far greater than what WG would potentially yield.

    INT robe 10% investment = 7-8m
    Potential return = 90-100m

    INT robe 30% investment = 35-40m
    Potential return = 90-100m

    WG 10% investment = 4m
    Potential return = 25-30m

    WG 30% investment = 18-23m
    Potential return = 25-30m

    You can do the detailed math if you don't believe me based on those numbers alone (no idea why you wouldn't since it's quite clear, but just in case)
     
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    Yeah but i usually fail 5-6 times using a 10% on glove which is usually the same cost as using 1 30% on a clean wg. Guess you're right tho
     
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    Well just attempted using 10% 10 times which cost me 40m, the same cost as using 2 30s on 1 wg
     
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    The idea here is, if the item you're scrolling is easy to obtain clean (i.e. a work glove vs a perfect godly end game weapon), then you should be using 10%'s to get the first one to pass and then 30%'s onwards. Theoretically, this will eventually even out. But simply put, this is the difference for using 10%s vs 30%s:

    10 x WGs = 30m
    + 10 x 10% GFAs = 10m
    = 40m for a single 3 atk, 4 slot WG
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    3 x WGs = 9m
    + 3 x 30% GFAs = 45m
    = 54m for a single 3 atk, 4 slot WG (and this is using the cheaper values with a slightly higher chance too)
     
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    What about for like a doros that costs from like 10-40m? would you use 10s or 30s on that?
     
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    This is where it starts to vary. Depending on your amount of funding, you should avoid doing this if you're too poor, use 30%s if you're confident, or 10%s with white scroll for something you really care about.
     

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