LF Paladins Expert to solve my questions

I was wondering what is the pros & cons of Paladin, always hoping someone will make one.

By the way, I heard that Paladin are bugged on some skills and also the attack range of 1 handed weapon compare to 2 handed one so what kind of weapon best suit Paladin? ( I'm using Crushed Skull + Maple Shield )

I go thru the forum I saw that by using 2 handed weapon, it increase almost 50% of the range and you only able to Pin BF with 2 handed weapon. Is it true?

Did you all went bossing with Paladin and how is going with it?

How you all pin BF or other bosses with 1 handed weapon or it is impossible to be done?

Compare 130wa Crushed Sull + 20wa Shield and 130 WA ST, which one stronger

Hope to see any comment from those Paladin, what they went thru, what kind of disadvantages Paladin facing and also those bugs of Paladin.
Will GM buff Paladin for the next update?

 

Pros:
- Uncommon (If you consider this a pro)
- Strong at Anego?

Cons:
- Heavily reliant on elemental weakness (Needs fire weakness just to be on par with hero when fighting a single enemy)
- Main damaging skill is single target (Heroes and Dark Knights both hit 3 targets with their main damaging skill)
- Never specifically wanted for a bossing party
- There's nothing(?) that a Paladin can do that another class can't do better

I have a sword paladin and I'd never consider otherwise. For a BW paladin you're using the best weapon.

Paladins are on par with heroes at Krexel(Weak to fire) so you're pretty average at that boss. At other big bosses you're at a severe disadvantage damage-wise.

If you can't perfectly pin BF with or without booster on(By doing nothing other than holding blast) you can use booster, attack bigfoot twice, wait half a second and repeat. 1h blast range was given a buff so you shouldn't have any problems.

I never had any problems finding bossing parties on my Paladin because my friends never cared about my class(This was before HT was possible to kill). I had fun playing on my Paladin and have no regrets in making/playing it but to be honest I only made it knowing I'd transfer my gear over to hero after I'd funded myself enough for HP washing so that I didn't have to stress about getting max HP on my first character.

I'd never recommend anyone to play Paladin but if you have fun with it then there's nothing wrong with any class. I personally still plan to get my Paladin to level 200!

There are no plans to buff/nerf any class.

 

How about the Magic Crush and also Threaten that doesn't work on Paladin? These wont be fixed?
Even with maxed Heaven Hammer, Paladin is not useful in Zakum/HT?
Can you pin BF with ur paladin with just holding Blast?
Should I wash my Paladin to max hp?
How about the range of Blade for one-hnaded weapon Paladin, I saw some said it had been upgraded to longer range, but i not sure is it real.
If Threaten is fixed, will Paladin be more useful?

 

Threaten works as best as it can and Magic Crash should already be working, although it's a pretty useless skill anyway.

Even with maxed HH, Paladins are not very useful in either of those bosses.

Assuming that it's the same as swords, you can pin BF by using a fast(5) weapon without booster or a slow(7) weapon without booster(Lol).

Max HP is always nice to have but I wouldn't say it's necessary.

The range for 1h blast was indeed increased.

If Threaten worked exactly as intended, Paladins would of course be more useful than they are now but wouldn't be worth the drop in DPS over bringing another better class in their party slot.

 

I thought Threaten should be able to cast on boss, and Magic crush is able to cancel the ANTI Physical/Magic damage that cast by boss?
May i know when it might be fixed? In Progress or not ?

So.. Should i give up on this job actually? :3

 

Find a nice group and you'll never be denied a spot in a boss run. Your damage will suffer there (especially zak) as you cannot multi-hit hands like a hero can.. but, they're a fun class and EXCELLENT grinders as far as melee classes go (almost always you have the benefit of a charge)... but I'm sure a hero is still faster

Pallys are a labor of love.

As for HP washing, not necessary, but I find it helpful for grinding because I use less pots and if I afk and someone *cough* @Swanky *cough* knocks me off the platform in ToT, I'm not going to die immediately.

They could use some extra love, but most pallys also don't put in the billions into the class that some people do with heros/DK. The issue ive seen so far is even with a charge, they're usually outshined by other classes of equal stats and gear (closest comparison is 1h sword pally to 1h sword hero). I've said it before, I feel with and without charge a pally should be doing about 130% and 70% of the damage respectively, when compared to a hero (so they shine with a charge and fall behind without) but it's complicated.

@Samadhi and @PaddysPub and @Kleric could probably give you a better idea of what to expect. I'm a casual grinding scrub pally.

 

Threaten already works against bosses and Magic Crash removes magic defense up (Not to be confused with Magic Cancel).

If you aren't enjoying playing Paladin then I'd say yes, spend your time more wisely and play a class that you enjoy. If you're having fun then keep on going.

 

As I know in Maplesea it is use for cancel the skill cast by boss, cause I used to be a DK on BBB and we use that to cancel them

Threaten already work on boss? Sure bout that? Some said it don't >< How should i confirm it did affect the boss with Threatened
I guess I would like to keep continue on Crushed Skull Paladin and make a SI mule to outshine other job. Just that anyway to get crushed skull beside of Gacha? The amount of Crushed Skull in market is almost near to 0, hope can get any improvement on that.

 

Hmm, I tot if I max HH and ACB can hit zakum at quite a better speed. For those you tagged are the paladin in the server?

Btw what do you mean by grinding with paladin? mobbing or ?

 

Grinding is just killing mobs and not killing bosses. I dont have HH yet, I find ACB and Blast to be great alone with rush, but HH would also help of course

 

Ah I got it, I farm a lot with my bishop to fund my Paladin. Now Im thinking should I sell my bishop eq to fund my Paladin stronger.. Any advice?

 

BTW how do I know if the boss is Threatened?

 

The icon should appear above the boss's head, but it only lowers their defense by 20. It's not really a game-changer for boss fights when you take into account the massive defense they have. It's almost as if the effect isn't there at all.

Also, if you have a bishop to fund your pally, keep doing that. it can help you with getting money for your equips.
Magic crash is useless. Same with power crash. They do not affect weapon/magic cancel skills in this server.
If you really want to enjoy paladins, I would suggest getting your Advanced Charge skill book as quickly as possible and get that skill to lvl 10. It makes training a LOT easier. Samadhi and I should know. I'm lvl 139 and Samadhi is 170, and we still don't have Advanced Charge. Let me tell you, slash blast isn't fun at that high of a level. Also, if you find a Blast 30 mastery book for a decent price, buy it. Don't bother trying to farm it. I've done over 50 papulatus runs looking for it.

I hope you actually enjoy the class, otherwise it won't be fun. I personally like Paladin more than any warrior (mostly because of the elemental skills).
The best place to grind would be skeles with holy charge, or Road of Regrets with lightning charge. Those areas give you lots of good end-game equips as well as good exp.

I wish you luck in your paladin build. It's always nice to see someone interested in the least-played class in the game.

 

Am I lucky then? I got my Advanced Charge in the first run of my Zakum.
Btw let me confirm that Threatened is able to decrease 20% defense, it's mean u making 20% more damage to them isn't it?
I got Blast 30 at 5m each, LUL I PASSED THEM TOO, what I need now is just Heaven Hammer, nothing more :3
I'm lv 139 Paldain, IGN: iBully, add me!

 

It is supposed to work by %'s, however for some complicated reasons it just can't be fixed to do that. Matt explains in this thread:

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/warriors-guardian-threaten-skill.104463/#post-609885

As for whether it is supposed to allow 20% more damage or not, I was never sure whether that was the case, or if it was 20% less of the enemies static defense (which enemies rarely have much of anyway). I want to say it allowed for 20% more damage based on my experiences using it way back in GMS. I recall it making a pretty large impact with damage on the Frankenroid boss in Magatia PQ.

Also, I'm +1 on the fact that Threaten has not been working on bosses; the effect won't appear on them for me. Not that it'd be useful, just saying.

I'm not sure what else to answer what other's haven't...
What hasn't been answered fully yet?

 

Hope any GM can come out with explanation on the Threaten skill.
Beside that, I hope that GM could make improvement on the Gachapon of Perion, whether improve the items get from there or something else.

 

its pretty good

 

Perion Gachapon isn't that bad. At least I think Pink Adventure Cape, Taru Spirit Cape, Crushed Skull, and Taru Totem(?) are pretty good jackpot rewards.

 

You say that like 125 skulls just fallllllll out of the gach

 

Like never found one Crushed Skull in fm, T_T