Item Make Onyx Apple/similar available beyond APQ

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    Returning player from a few years ago, mainly bossing on my shadower.

    I'm noticing just how central onyx apples are to basically everything bossing, and just in general are the hottest commodity beyond WS/CS. It feels like I'm expected to pop an apple in most (not all) situations because its just that much more efficient. I get it, but I find it pretty annoying.

    It'd be really nice if there were ways to get strong attack potions that isn't ONLY running APQ. Sure APQ could still be the main, surefire/efficient source of apples, but I was thinking apples (or similar tier consumables) could be RNG'd from other sources such as boss drops or other PQ's. Ideally implemented in such a way as to not disturb the price apples too much or anything.

    Curious what your thoughts are, personally really not fond of APQ and I'd like to be able to accrue weapon attack consumables (even if inefficiently) from other sources. Good example is Gelt but this is only obtainable once a year. I'm looking at bosses like pap, chao, ephenia, etc. that mostly have terrible drops, or high-er lvl PQ's like EPQ. Just throw it in there at a low % chance here & there, I can't see it deflating apples. It just feels off for such a crucial item, that has no substitute whatsoever, be limited to this single party quest.
     
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    Gelt and demon elixir are obtainable everyday in CWKPQ although not as common as Onyx Apples however. Making them as farmable as apples would only devalue apples and APQ as a whole. If you don’t like APQ there is many other ways to make Mesos in the game. With that you can simply buy your attack potions. Farming heart stoppers on the side is another alternative although they are a bit weaker in comparison.
     
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    Wait you use use onyx apples in bosses? ~f18
     
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    Not sure if flexing, but pretty much every zak or krex i've been in players ask the party to use apples~f8
     
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    I'm really not... The only content I mainly do with parties is lhc, and that only requires stoppers. That's why I'm genuinely baffled that you're required to apple on bosses which are literally brick walls. Maybe I'm the one who's out of touch in the bossing scene ~f18
     
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    Fair enough, maybe I'll push back if they ask^_^' It just seems like apples are everything these day just like CS/WS, plus accepted as payment for all things.

    Zancks is right though, it is just mesos, i guess my suggestion is more to have more sources of strong attack potions since they're so central to everything
     
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    Dont make them easier avaible please
    There is xmas event and stuff
     

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