Hello everyone, I recently returned to the game after a few years away and was planning to make some mesos by selling Petri leech. To my surprise, it seems like no one is interested in Petri leech anymore. The map is completely empty on all channels, and it's nearly impossible to find buyers — even when I lower my rates. After leeching myself there for a while, it also felt like the spawn rate was lower than I remembered. I’ve since learned that it was nerfed some time ago. Honestly, it’s a bit frustrating. I invested a lot of time, effort, and mesos into gearing up my F/P specifically to sell Petri leech — and I know I’m not the only one who did. But coming back now, it feels like all that effort was for nothing. Meanwhile, everyone seems to be buying Skele leech, while Petri leech is completely ignored. I’d really love to see something change. Having two viable high-level leech options would help balance the game and potentially bring F/P mages back into the meta. I’m not entirely sure what the exact nerfs to Petri were, but maybe the spawn rate or EXP could be adjusted? Just some thoughts. Thanks for reading, and I hope some changes will be considered — I think it would be a healthy step for the game.
f/p is still good at high Lv leech, just upgrade ur gear to reach 1308(?) tma and start to sell skele leech. f/p in skele = bs+si
In the same situation though I got a I/L Mage that I used to sell petri leech on for like 140/150 m/h (4 yrs ago) at lv 158 now no one is buying, and I'm either going to have to level a bishop to sell other leech, or sell cheaper leech in general (or get mw20 on him and sell skele and have to drag a mule around which is annoying)
The spawn rate was nerfed but then slightly buffed. iirc someone said petri is slightly faster than skele by like ~5%? (this is just based off memory so not very reliable). But the main issue with petris is the bad drop, less profitable items hence it's not quite desired for the arch-mangoes.
in my own tests, petri is about 75% the exp as skele. Sometimes friends or guildies were looking for petris, i'd just suggest them to buy ulu 2 leech, cuz 150m petris leech is not (much) faster than 2 hours ulu 2 leech.
Okay looking back into old threads, the number in my mind came from petris vs duku (rip duku), so ignore me . But the bad drop statement remains.
That's the problem i'm having, i have mw20 on my f/p but it doesn't really matter people just don't wanna buy petri leech and i don't blame them, the exp is just not as good as skele and i think this needs to change. I disagree with you, you're right by saying that petri just has bad drops but that's not my problem, it was my decision to make an f/p and go for petri, i just expect Petri to be as good as Skele in terms of spawn rate and exp.
I don't think that's the solution, my main goal was to 1hit petri, i'll have to spend so much more money and energy on getting better gear to 1hit skele as an f/p which is not easy and super expensive. I just think Petri should go back to what it was, to give a fair fight to Skele leech and just balance it out. *Sorry for the double message i forgot to quote that.
actually fp/il 1 hit is less investment than bs 1 hit skele. 1260 tma vs. 1300 tma The problem with petris is that it has been a less favored choice since like 10+ years ago, and there is no balance between fp/il vs. bs as to leeching. Now it's just worse. the places where fp's shine are ice valley II, ulu 1, etc. in 2k25 people are making many fp mages per player to do multi-client and multi-channel farming.
To 1hit Skele as an f/p you need 1306 ma (With mw20), to 1hit petri you need 1260, it's not even close. I don't think the solution is just to gear up and get 1306, getting 46ma doesn't come easy, getting to 1260ma is hard enough. the solution in my opinion is to balance it out and make Petri viable and worth it for the sellers and the buyers.
I do 3* 10min test just now.(151mage + 139mule) ulu2: 5.1m exp/10min,(if i use Lv130 Mage, it'll be more fast) petri: 7.6m exp/10min, skele: 8.6m exp/10min, I remember I do the same test with friends 2~3 yrs ago, it's alsmot the same exp between petri/skele. idk if GM nerf the petri exp due to the tma reason. 2 yrs ago, I can sell equips 2.5 times in 1hr leech at petri, but it's 1.5times about 6 months ago. There's no reason to buy or sell petri leech for buyer or seller now. ------------------------------------------------ as the other pros says, i think the tma issue in skele is fair =>BS: 1300tma + gene20/30 (200m/600m per book) =>f/p: 1306tma + metereo20/30 (10m/30m per book)
ok i see what u mean. The problem with petris, is that it has never been great.. I can say that cuz I sold leech back in 2015/16 You may refer to some of the best leechers at petris (before the nerf): Keep in mind that it's just 3 min leech. I would expect 60min leech to be slower cuz ppl get tired and lazy. Even for the best leechers, the exp a buyer would get (consider 2x 108 chars and 150 leecher) is merely 41m/hr (again, before the nerf). Whereas today's best leechers could provide ~45m/hr at skeles. If petris' spawn is reverted, people would probably expect to spend 90% or less as skele leech per hour.
I don't think there's an MA issue, i think that Petri is just nerfed to the ground and needs to be as viable as skele like it used to be. Petri is an easier map and i understand the ma difference between a bishop who wants to 1hit skele or an arch mage who wants to 1hit petri so yea i would understand if they decide to keep skele alittle bit better in terms of exp per hour, maybe by like 5%/10%, and don't forget that Skele drops are way better than Petris drops, so having a bishop who can 1hit skele, get buyers easy, get more money from drops, just gives you allot more benefits from an arch mage who just 1hit petri since there's nothing else you can really do with it. Not even talking about a washed bishop you can take to HT and VL. So saying all that yes bishop's book should be more expensive, and 1hitting skele should require abit more ma than 1hitting petri, because at the end of the day having a strong washed bishop gives you a shit ton of benefits in this server, that's why i don't see the reason not changing petri to how it used to be since there's no reason to compare in my opinion.
I feel u mixed up a lot of different issues and give no supportive reason to ur idea & reply =>"petri map should be buff in spawn/loot/exp" =>"I don't think there's an MA issue" I try to separate the issues as the following: 1.skele/petri should have same exp/loot efficency? =>this is actually the ma issue, more tma required, more efficency =>skele need 1300(bs)/1306(Mage), petri need 1260 =>petri should be nerf on somewhere, loot, exp, or both to fit the 40tma gap. 2. skele BS/ skele Mage is fair? =>I compare the requirement of 1hit-bs & 1-hit Mage to say it's fair 3.I agree it's a big problem that there's no thing to do for high Lv Mage, but I still think it's fair in mesos =>(if use lollipop)[BS need 0.4B+1.4B (100% pass survice) to 1 hit] + [ht-mule potential]<=compare to=> Mage can use 1.8B to upgrade gear to get 6 more tma to 1-hit skele ---->1.8B - [ht-mule potential] = 6tma (Mage) =>(if don't use lollipop)Mage have [Meditation], so they only need 1306-20 = 1286 to reach 1-hit 4.additional discussion => all reason u says about what skele more than petri is because of the tma issue. => if considering the potential to rationalize the SB's price, u should compare [BS in ht/vl] & [LHC golem leech(600m exp in 1 hr) / ToT farming / ulu1 farming / Ellin forest farming / easier RG run], but it's far away from the discussion in petri/skele issue.
I don't think buff petri to skele Level is the only way to make petri great again. My idea about createing the petri market is: (1)adjust skele Lv to 115, and skele will become a Lv110 up leech (or Lv114 Lv113...) (2)adjust petri Lv to 107, and petri will become a Lv102 up leech (or Lv106 Lv108...) (3)slight increase in the drop rate, so petri seller can set a cheaper leech price =>Then, petri will be one of leech choice between Lv102~110 if ppl want to save time from ulu2 =>if ppl don't care about leech time, Lv130Mage's ulu2 have same meso-efficency as Lv145Mage's skele roughly
I don't think i mixed up a lot of different issues, having a bishop compared to having an arch mage is just not comparable and talking about skele vs petri or leeching with a bishop vs arch mage i just can't help it but to bring it up. Like i said tho, i do believe that skele needs to be a bit better than petri since you need more ma to 1hit, but not to the point where petri is completely useless and ignored. By saying i don't think there's an MA issue i meant that it's totally fair that Skele is more profitable and gives alittle bit more exp. I like this idea, i'd even go further and make petri a leeching spot from maybe 102/115 and skele 115-135, or if we don't wanna touch ulu2 petri can be 105-115/120 and skele can be 115/120-135, adding to that, i think that petri should still be a viable option to leech all the way to 135, but it can be cheaper than skele for the people who don't care about time and would rather save 20/30m per hour.
I can confirm that I also: Lvled up a F/P to 141 to sell the best leech at the time. I also had to Lvl up a priest to 81. I had to buy lots of expensive INT equips to get the MA at lvl 141 It got nerfed and all my investment was lost. Leeching as a bishop requires SO much less effort and is better rewarded as it has an easier map to navigate through, better loot, doesn't require 2 characters. Bishops at least are a class that is useful in high levels, archmages are not. With all previosly said, this is clearly unbalanced. In my opinion skele leech could give less exp but better loot, and it should cost less to the buyer since the seller is getting more money from drops. That's a good balance. It's frustrating that this buffs and nerfes are going to take 4 years to happen, but it needs a change asap.
I feel the same as i mentioned before, i spent allot of time and energy on making my f/p strong enough to 1hit petri, now it feels like it was for nothing. I don't agree with what you said about bishop requires less effort to leech, even tho he can go for Wand 6 which is cheaper than wand 5/7, but it is true that having a bishop is much better rewarded and pretty much the most useful job out there comparing to an arch mage who you use only for leeching since there's nothing else to do with them. I also don't really agree that skele should cost less than petri since getting to 1300/1306 TMA is really difficult. With all that said, there are many people in this server who are far better than me at balancing the game. I'd really love to see some input from a staff member on how they view the current state of things. Hopefully, if they decide that a change to Petri leech is right and healthy for the server, it won’t take long, I truly believe a lot of people would benefit from it.
