Hey guys, I am planning on leveling a new archer and I've read a bunch of guides on HP washing. Haven't ever done this before, so I was hoping someone here could tell me if I have enough max MP by the time I reach level 155 as my goal is to not get one-shotted by HT. HP goal: 9000 MP goal: 5318 (before washing) Level: 155 Class: Bowman What I've gotten so far is +30 int gear in total starting at level 20. And I was planning on dropping 160 "fresh" AP into INT asap. Would I reach the desired MP goal by the time I get level 155? Thanks in advance.
You can have enough if you MP wash, but otherwise you'll only get about 1950 extra MP. This is also assumimg you wash out all your int at 155 which would leave you rather weak until then.
Then what would be the best thing to do currently? More "fresh" AP > INT? If yes, how much would be sufficient?
I would read up on MP washing which would be your best bet. For a basic example on how to do this, you raise your base int to whatever you want (190 for you), then you start putting level up AP into MP. Then you take it out of MP and put it into your main stat. You would get 19 MP per level AP point on top of the 22 MP you get when leveling up. You could actually probably get away with less base int and be able to wash it out sooner if 9k is your goal by using this method.
Alright, but I don't understand why I need more INT or MP washing or whatever. This is what I did to calculate my mp. 160 INT (base) / 10 = 16 mp + 22 mp = 38 mp per level Lvl 155 - 20 (because of the level requirement of certain items) = 135 levels x 38 mp = at least 5130 mp And this doesn't even take the INT gear into account yet.
Where are you getting the 22mp from? I think I did my math wrong a little initially, but with 160 base int and 30 in int gear, you should only be getting 19 mp per level up.
"You would get 19 MP per level AP point on top of the 22 MP you get when leveling up" I took it from you . Isn't there a base MP? Or would it mean 19 MP in total per levelup?
Ohhhh, that was if you're MP washing only. If you MP wash, you're looking at 117 MP per level up. If you're trying to do just base int and int gear, you would only get 22mp per level up with the gear and base int.
So basically, putting fresh AP into MP will give you 19 extra mp per point. 190 Base Int / 10 = 19. 19 MP x 5 [AP Points per Level] = 95. 95 + [19 from base int + 3 from int gear] = 117 per level. After you put the fresh AP points into MP, you can take it out right away and put it into your main stat.
Thanks for the calcs! I think I understand it almost fully now. If I were to get to 160-180 "base" INT and MP wash after like this: Code: Put one of your level up APs into MP. Use one AP Reset to pull out some MP. The AP Reset will allow you to use that AP you pulled out of MP on a damage stat, so add that extra AP into your damage stat. You can do this 5 times in a row per level up. 1 time for each natural AP. Will I then be able to reach my desired goal of 9k hp by lvl 155?
You would have enough MP way before 155 actually. If your goal is only 9k, I think you can get away with 100 base int, 30 int gear and still be able to reset all your base int around 120 assuming you MP wash from about level 50 - 120. I'm at work right now so I might have to double check my math later and I don't have any base HP/MP stats so I can't say exactly, but you should be able to reset around there.
Oh, that would be sick if it were the case! Something I am still unable to find is how much HP/MP you get per level up as a base.
I'm not quite sure what those numbers would be unfortunately, but I know it's pretty negligible. I think the minimum HP formula is [20 x level] + 378 for a bowman so that would mean you would have at least 2778 at level 20. Also factoring that you get a bit of HP at job advances, I think you would probably be around the 3k base mark? Since you need 6k more HP to hit your desired goal of 9k, you would need enough MP for 375 washes (This is considering you get shafted by RNG and get the minimum 16 HP per wash). Since each wash is 12 MP, you would need to have an extra 4500 MP by level 120. If you get 100 base int by level 40 and have 30 Int in gear as well, you would be able to start MP washing. You would need to wash for about 71 levels since you also get 5 AP when you do 3rd job advance. Again, I calculated this with the minimum gains you would receive instead of the average 18, so you would actually be done sooner since you also get bonus AP and HP/MP from leveling and 3rd job advance. Let me know if anything was unclear or if you have any other questions as I might have goofed a bit in my calculations due to my lack of sleep f3
I see. Considering I'm already at 100 int base @lv 23, would I be good if I did it like this: Level to 40 and put all AP in DEX. MP wash from Lv40 till ~120. Be donezo? Picture for reference: Spoiler
Looks like a good idea to me, especially since hurricane is mana hungry. You can always use the extra MP as a bm haha. Don't forget to save some AP for str to wear a nisrock later.
I re-did some of the calculations I made earlier since I reached lvl30 and I wanted to once again check if I'm correct. Code: My current stats: Lv30 Hunter 1094 HP 825 MP 4 STR (+2) 62 DEX (+9) 100 INT (+43) 4 LUK (+0) HP/MP gain on level-up: HP 20-24 (22 AVG) MP 14-16 (15 AVG) Lv155 (target level) - 30 (current level) = 125 22 x 125 = 2750 HP 15 x 125 = 1875 MP 14 (bonus maxMP from INT) x 125 = 1750 extra MP Lv155 Total HP: 2750 HP Lv155 Total MP: 3625 MP MP needed by Lv155: ~5320 MP missing: 1695 MP Minimum MP: 14 x 155 + 148 = 2318 5320 MP - 2318 MP = ~3000 washable MP HP Washing: +16 ~ 20HP -12MP 3000 / 12 = 250 250 x 18 HP (AVG) = 4500 HP Minimum HP: 20 x 155 + 378 = 3478 HP 3478 + 4500 HP = 7978 HP MP Washing: + ~8 MP per wash, max x5 per levelup (8MP x 5 = 40 MP per level). 1695 MP / 40 = ~43 levels (215 AP resets) Which left me with a few questions. 1. According to this topic I only need 5318 Total MaxMP, however, when I calculate it it would only get me to 7978 HP. I thought you need 9k+ for HT? Or is this due to HP on gear or w/e? 2. I only need to MP wash for 43 levels. I thought I had to do more, not sure. 3. I took the MP wash gain per AP reset from the topic I mentioned above. It says you gain +8 MP per MP wash with 100 base INT. But if (+10 Raw INT = +1 MP) isn't that an extra +10 MP already? 4. I know what I wrote above here is a bit messy, but could someone please check it for any mistakes I may have made? I know it's alot to answer, but I would appreciate any input you give me!
