Closed Most unreasonable ban ever

Character Name : DoesItTwerk
Last thing i did : Grinding at Forest of Golems and logged out to vote
Why do you think you got banned? : For getting mad about someone who got mad just because I walked across his Forest of Golem map and killed 3 monsters.
Ban message : Picture below
Which GM banned me : Jeen

Full story below

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Hi GM
I cannot believe what just happened, I was playing a minute before and logged out to vote. When I try to log back this happened.



Seriously, what the heck is this? I never remember I kill stealing anyone. I can remember 2 days ago I was walking pass a map try to find a pie monster and the map owner start cursing me so I got mad, cursed him back and kill 3 monsters. Is this the reason?

I admit I cursed him back something like "stfu" "I will ks you arse until you like it if I want to" (where in fact I killed 3 monsters)
Cursing and getting mad is part of the game, but ban from killing 3 monsters?

Seriously ? I was been kill stealing for 30 minutes at Ghost ship 2 where is the most popular map and used ~gm for 5 times and finally GM came and they didn't get punished at all just because they left after GM told them to.

Now I got banned for someone over-reacting about I walk across a map? And I am not even sure if this is really how I got banned. If this is not it, then this ban is even more ridiculous.

SERIOUSLY? Where is the standard? Answer me GM please?
So let's all abuse the report system, shall we?
This is making me so angry, what a fair environment we are given aye?

I was going to donate this game because I enjoyed it so much and I appreicate the active GM but now this is making me think twice.
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And just realised I cannot even log onto my other account because I am using the same IP.
I cannot believe this..........

I apologise for my emotional thread but when you got kill stealing at GS2 for 30 minutes by 2 players and no punishments was given where on the other hand, you got banned from a guy over-reacted and abused the report system after you cursed him back and killed 3 monsters.

seriously, heart breaking

 

Just checked my 2 accounts again.
So now I am banned for using profane language?
So if I didn't being honest and not tell you that I actually cursed him back (where he cursed me first)
Will I be unbanned?

Come on, really? Can we be reasonable for once? Please?

 

Just checked my 2 accounts again.
So now I am banned for using profane language?
So if I didn't being honest and not tell you that I actually cursed him back (where he cursed me first)
Will I be unbanned?

Come on, really? Can we be reasonable for once? Please?

 

Sorry for the double post

I only want the truth, I don't blame anyone.

I understand GM has lots of things to do a day to take care the whole game.

However, this is insanely unreasonable.

He cursed me, I didn't report. I cursed him back with no obvious F bomb, he reported, I got banned?

And GM changed the reason of ban just to make the whole thing easy?

Please....

 

To dear GMs
I sincerely hope you guys can read this and replies.
I know you guys are busy and hope everything is going well. I apologise if my thread is emotional and aggressive but I wasn't on the good mood for sure.

I joined this game 1-2 months ago and I really love it, however, what happened today really gave me a feeling of insecurity about the game and the whole system. I love the passion of the community and the hard works by admins.
However, the more I think about my incidence the more upset I get.



Few confusions from my point of view
1. What is the real reason I am banned? The incidence I mentioned in the first thread happened 2-3 days ago but I was only banned today.

2. If it was the incidence I mentioned that got me banned. Then why when I was been kill stealing 30mins, GM said as long as they left they don't get punishments. However, I hit 3 monsters when walking pass a map I am banned today.

3. A player abused the report system and got me banned for "harassing/kill stealing" him. But as soon as I posted the whole story here. One of the admin immediately changed my reason of ban to "profane language". I personally don't know why and don't think this is ethic at all.

4. A player didn't reported me for "using profane language", instead he reported me for "harassing/kill stealing". It is because he was guilty as well for cursing me. In this case, I think an admin found out I was mis-banned (because my reason of ban has been changed) but shouldn't I be unbanned because that is what the other player accused me for? How come I am still banned for another accusation coming from nowhere/no one?


I really don't want to have no reply from any admin until my ban is expired.
People might think 3 days are not long so just keep quiet and wait for it.
But it is the unfairness and the feeling of insecurity from the game that kept me upset and disappointed and all I want is explanation on my confusions.


Thank you for your time, hope to hear from you soon

Best Regards

 

Having looked at the report that had been made against you, I do have to agree that you were fairly rude towards the other player.
Even if what you said about him having been rude towards you first is true, it does not justify you showing that kind of behaviour.
However if you do have evidence of him cursing you first then you can always make a report in the report abuse section, but it won't change the outcome of your ban appeal.

As for your 4 questions:

What is the real reason I am banned? The incidence I mentioned in the first thread happened 2-3 days ago but I was only banned today.
The reason to why you were banned is because you were excessively rude towards another player, calling him an f-ing idiot multiple times and such.
As for why you were only banned today rather than 2 or 3 days ago, has to do with us having to process a lot of threads at the same time which can result in a few days delay when it comes to sending out replies and taking action.

If it was the incidence I mentioned that got me banned. Then why when I was been kill stealing 30mins, GM said as long as they left they don't get punishments. However, I hit 3 monsters when walking pass a map I am banned today.
If we have the ability to solve an ingame conflict without having to ban players, we prefer to do it that way.
The reports found in the report abuse section are usually sent in when the conflict was not solved ingame and the player still feels the need to have some form of GM assistance with said conflict.

A player abused the report system and got me banned for "harassing/kill stealing" him. But as soon as I posted the whole story here. The admin immediately changed my reason of ban to "profane language". I personally don't think this is ethic at all.
I honestly don't know if changing the ban reason had to do with you making a ban appeal or not, it could also have been that the ban reason entered originally was wrong by accident.
Perhaps it's better to ask the GM who banned you about that.

A player didn't reported me for "using profane language", instead he reported me for "harassing/kill stealing". It is because he was guilty as well for cursing me. In this case, if an admin found out I was mis-banned (because my reason of ban has been changed), shouldn't I be unbanned because that is what the other player accused me for? How come I am still banned for another accusation coming from no where?
Though the ban reason you will see ingame is different from each other, both profane language and harassment fall under the same rule in the T&C of the server.
If we found you to be guilty of having used profane language, then we will ban you for that rather than the harassment that was originally suggested by the player reporting you.


Additionally I would like to ask you not to spam my inbox asking me to check out your thread, as I have had no involvement in landing your ban and thus it would take me a lot longer to give you a reply than if you would've asked the GM who has banned you.

 

Thanks for your reply

I apologise for spamming your inbox because GM who banned me was offline and I was wanting a second opinion from another GM as well.

The info you provided are good, thanks for them, however still have some confusion but I will contact the GM myself.

Have a good night.

 

Seems I got confused with a different report. You were correctly banned for ksing the first time and even saying that you could do it "until they liked it", which is a clear admission that you know you are ksing which is not tolerated on this server.

 

Thanks for the reply and your hard work Jeen.
Please next time be sure about the ban as players really get confused about what they are being accused.
And this reason gets me more confusion, if I assumed a player is a Korean and called them dog. I usually remember that 100%. I only recall myself sometimes and rarely saying this as a joke to my friends in private chat.
Not to anyone I don't know.
If I did got really mad and say such words to other players, I am satisfied about the ban 100%.

Anyway, the thread is closed and thanks for the help.
I will ask the further questions through inbox.

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By the way, the incidence I mentioned in my original thread, my brother was there too and he is 100% sure I didn't put up any racist joke/comment. The screenshot from GM wasn't me either. So so far I am still having discussion with GM to figure what is going on with my situation now. I personally don't want people think I did such a terrible personal comment.

 

To who might have the same problem as me. I decided to post what happened after my ban appeal, hope this will help some of you.

Firstly thanks GM for keep getting back to me in our private chat, every GMs deserve claps for their hard work.

My profane language ban ends up being a mistake by GM, Jeen.
I DID NOT called any players dogs not alone calling all Korean = dogs

However, I did end up getting Kill Stealing ban from a player accused me with 2 screenshots where I fought back verbally and physically (killed 3 monsters) after he over-reacted my brother and I walked pass the map.

What a days, I experienced a lot from this game in these 2 days. I appreciate the speed of replies and time from GM participated in my thread.
However I was stunned at the same time by GM's mistake and how the whole reporting system can be easily abused by anyone.

I hope GM can at least give me an apology for accusing me calling Korean = Dogs instead of edit the previous post.

 

I already apologized in PM like you wanted, but since you seem to want a public apology as well, I apologize for making an honest mistake and getting you mixed up with someone else. You didn't call anyone a dog and I edited my previous post so that no one would connect you with that comment.

However, let me make it clear that someone didn't "abuse the report system". You clearly said you could ks them until they liked it so that shows intention to keep on doing so and implies that you know they don't like it but are going to do it anyway. This is why you were banned. Ksing and intent to keep ksing is also a form of harassment.