Fixed My DK's MP seems too low for her level

At level 70, my Dragon Knight has only 426 MP clean, despite wearing a small amount of int gear from lvl 53 onwards.

I always thought that Spearmen gained a large chunk of MP when they got 2nd job advance, but looking back over my screenies, this sadly does not seem to be the case. ChibiDK gained precisely 0 MP from becoming a Spearman:

Before 2nd Job advance
After 2nd job advance

A Basilmarket guide to HP Washing gives the following formulas for the minimum amount of MP needed for a warrior to be able to HP wash:

Fighters: MP = (Level x 4) +56
Pages: MP = (Level x 4) +56
Spearmen: MP = (Level x 4) +156

Now this suggests to me that Spearmen gain approx 100 MP on 2nd job advance. My son, who was a level 10x DK on pre-bb GMS remembers getting a large chunk of MP on level up, and (as you'll see from the chatbox in the last couple of hours), Vergil gives the amount of MP Spearmen gain on 2nd job advance as approx 100-150.

ChibiDK has also been wearing a modest amont of int gear on level up (I initially didn't intend doing any HP washing on her, and knew nothing about it until the last few days):

Lvl 53-65 inclusive: 12 int total (base int of 4 + equips)
Lvl 66-69 inclusive: 19 int total (see above)
Lvl 70: 37 int total (see above)

If she gained 1 MP per 10 total int on level up, she would have gained this extra MP (compared with her not wearing any int gear at all):

Lvl 53-65 inclusive - 1 mp per level up, total of 13 mp for these levels
Lvl 66-69 inclusive - 1 mp per level up, total of 3 mp for these levels
Lvl 70 - 3mp at lvl up
Total: 19 mp from int gear

At level 70, I should theoretically have been able to reset a few points of MP into str, but I was unable to. I had a long talk with a friend about this tonight and he told me about the "minimum MP for HP washing" formulas on Basilmarket. Theoretically, ChibiDK should have a bare minimum of 436 MP at this level + 19 MP from int gear on lvl up, which = 455 MP. More realistically, she's probably still minus the 100 MP she didn't gain when she became a Spearman. I really, really wish I'd realised all this sooner, but honestly, my area of Maple knowledge is Clerics/Priests/Bishops.

Now, while in theory I could remake her, the idea of doing so horrifies me, mainly because at 80 base Str and 8 base Dex, getting her through 3rd job advance was hell - it took about an hour and a half and a lot of pots, including attack pots. (ChibiDK isn't a regular DK, she's designed to be a high-levelled tank-anything HB Mule, and I'm aiming at reaching max clean HP on her.) I also don't fancy doing all that rather difficult grinding all over again - she got lvl 44-52 purely from doing Orbis exchange quest, but outside of that, it's been quests and grinding.

To sum up: Matt, would it be possible for you to add in the missing MP that ChibiDK should have? (By my reckoning above, it's approx 100)

 

I believe this is due to the fact that fighters aren't supposed to get MP from 2nd job advance. Fighters should get 300~350hp and 0mp, while pages and spearmen should get 0hp and 100~150mp.

Though if they've used fighter formulas for spearmen, it might be that you got the extra HP, which you shouldn't have got.

 

I think you just hit the nail on the head, Vergil - I gained fighter-ish HP on 2nd job advance but no MP. So... when Matt gets chance, and if it's possible, he might need to take points out of HP and put them into MP on her. Gaaaah, messed up stats ftl, but thank you for being so helpful and assisting me in pinpointing the problem!

So... this leads me to the obvious question - are there any other Spearmen/DKs/DrKs around who also ended up with the fighter 2nd job advance formula? I'm sure there must be some, although no idea how many, because I don't know when the bug arose and when it was fixed, if it has been fixed, or if it's just me that got glitched.

 

I got 300 or so HP and 0 MP upon 2nd job advancement - I'm a page... halp pls

 

Right, I spoke to some person in game (ign Kemmel) who just now became a spearman.. and gained a lot of HP and no MP.

I believe all warriors 2nd job advancement HP/MP boosts are bugged to be fighter-only, so this bug does not affect fighters, naturally.

I hope that it is safe to keep on leveling while you find a solution to this, Matt?

 

Thanks for checking this out Toby, and I have another question for Matt regarding our characters: should we avoid doing any HP washing on our characters until you've been able to resolve this bug and fix our stats?

(Not that I'm able to do much - it wasn't until I reached level 74 that I even had the *option* of doing my first wash, due to low MP.)

 

As I've never really played a warrior before (to 3rd job) I'm not sure about this, but I thought I'd mention/ask anyway.

What are the HP/MP boosts for different warriors for 3rd (and 4th) job?

Do crusaders get HP only, while WKs and DKs get MP only - as it should be at the 2nd job advancement? Or is it different? If so, how?

Thanks in advance

 

Warrior -> Fighter seems a bit too high, but I'm not sure.

This would be an improvement to what it used to be, anyway.

 

I don't think it's *quite* right - I'll get Mewmeister to take a look at it when he finishes work, as he's clued up on all the ins and outs of the warrior classes. However, it's certainly an improvement, and one I'd be happy to live with.

Thanks very much for doing this! =)

ETA: Having thought more about it, I think the hp is a little high on all of them. As far as I know, fighters get all hp, pages get a mix of hp and mp and spearmen get the lowest hp bonus (not sure if they get one) but the highest mp bonus. Having said that, the extra hp boost (if it's too high) would be a welcome bonus for our warriors, lol, esp since hp washing is going to be much harder! Not sure this would be fair on the other job classes though, if it's not the right boost.

 

Update: This bug was fixed at the time of the server wipe.