[retired] New New Community Blacklist

Edit: Withdrew this. It was petty, and after thinking about it, I realise I made no attempt to resolve the apple dispute peacefully, and regardless of whether or not I was in the right, I probably would have scored (and maybe have, but will never know) myself a 3 day ban for verbal abuse, lol. Doctrine of clean hands prolly applies.

Just another reason I chose to go on hiatus o.o

Despite the number of posts about apples here, very few actually make it to the black list. Imagine if we all cared as much about real apples as we do about virtual apples. We'd all be so healthy!

 

1. IGN: HoboJojo
2. REASON: zakum helmet scammer
3. DETAILS: bought reg zakum helmt, took all helmets , didnt payed and left the game, we waited as a party he never came back never payed.

 

1. IGN: xMagueMarcio
2. REASON: Scamming/Slacking low-level leech
3. DETAILS: Bought GS2 leech from him for 1 hour. He went to NPC items TWICE during ~53 minutes or so, then abruptly left after asking if I needed another hour of leech. I got about 23% exp in total at level 60, and paid 75m. Also I feel like he would've left if I paid for another hour of leech.

He also has a level 15x Night Lord, XDarkmarcioX
Scammer? Maybe - maybe not - but still avoid buying leech from this guy. Slacker for sure.

 

1. IGN: https://royals.ms/forum/members/hamburg.38164/ (Can tell it's him because https://royals.ms/forum/threads/sp-reset.90382/)
SnoopGiraffe
NanoTech
Possibly (RichStore)
2. REASON: APR SCAM

3. DETAILS: Guy smegas T>CS for 25 APR, and runs off.


Guy is literally viewing at the blacklist right after he scams me on the forum and responds to me on the forum LOL

I definitely had my doubts when I first saw his character but after looking up his forum profile and since he wasn't in any blacklists I decided to trust him. Unfortunately he scammed me.

Conveniently a mule character (probably him) RichStore comes in which is why I loot all the APR so he can't claim a third party stole it.
https://i.imgur.com/MZ9kOMF.png\

EDIT: As of making this post, he has returned everything he has taken.

 

Misconduct starts small, such as APR or leech scam. But the longer it goes unchecked, the worse the offenses become. players who are faced with growing opportunities to behave unethically are more likely to rationalize their misconduct because unethical behavior becomes a trend in this community. Since scamming is an extremely low cost but high reward, this blacklist will presumably be extended. A player can make meso easily by just create another character to scam people. In this case, Hamburg got caught, but what about aulz?

 

Actually richstore is not my account, that was another dude that tried buying and I told him to wait patiently, although he didn't listen. He doesn't deserve to be put out here.
I can name my chars and prove with pictures that it's not me, I don't want the guy to get screwed over what I did

 

You care about him not getting screwed over by what you did, but you do not care about ORGI getting screwed over by what you did.

That's such twisted logic.

 

It doesn't excuse his scamming "social experiment", but Orgi did say that hamburg gave them their aprs back.

 

Ah, thanks for clarifying. I wasn’t aware of that. I’m glad they were able to resolve it.

 

1. IGN: XiaoMiHu
2. Reason: Item price scam
3. DETAILS:

 

How is this a scam? It's your responsibility to look at the stats

 

how is Bundle Shop Scam then? It's ur responsibility to look at the price

 

But one is 5slots and another is 4slots
or they r the same price...

 

He's saying the one that has 4 slots left shouldn't be the same price as the one with 5 slots left, even though they're the same att

 

I dont think they're trying to intentionally scam someone though. They're just hoping that someone will just pay 200m regardless of whether it has all of its slots or not.

 

You are right. Bundle Shop is not a scam for the exact same reason, no matter how hard people make it out to be.

1. First of all, Royals has no rule for this so-called scam.
2. Second of all, it isn't a scam to begin with.
3. Third of all, it isn't possible to discern whether it was done intentionally, or unintentionally, and if it was, it cannot conclusively be said it diminishes their moral character.
4. Finally, if Royals would for some reason decide to make a rule for it, then and only then would it constitute as a scam.

If you complain about what happened to you with a so-called 'bundle shop scam', that's completely understandable, it sucks. Complain all you want. But if you go further and start reporting people here in the hopes for some type of justice or hope for the rules to get changed and see them banned, or in the hopes to smear their name... Doesn't that go a bit too far? It seems to imply you are someone who is unwilling to claim responsibility for their own actions, their own mistakes.

Aren't we in control of our own actions? If the moment we're buying things is the moment we want to let go of that control over our own life and actions, then we must accept the possible consequences.

We decide to owl, and/or go in the store. All sensory information is there for us to look at. The item, the amount per purchase, the price, and total amount left. We decide to look and inspect this information, or not. It's not distorted. It's not blocked. It's clear as day for everyone to see, and 100 people before us have inspected it and NOT bought it. Now, if we decide to spam-click buy things in someone's shop without inspecting the items first, we need to take into account the reasonable scenario that we will end up buying something we didn't intend to buy, because we didn't properly inspect it. We were fully in control to inspect it, or not. It is our own responsibility we bought it, period.

There is absolutely nothing malicious about putting up stacks more expensive in hopes of someone being stupid enough to buy it. The only exception I can think of when it would be without question the right thing to do to give them back their mesos, are those who do not possess over the necessary faculties to make any informed decision whatsoever. But I doubt that is the case for any of us here.

 

I agree a lot with what you said, except "There is absolutely nothing malicious about putting up stacks more expensive in hopes of someone being stupid enough to buy it." If you intentionally try to screw someone over in hopes of gaining a few more million mesos you're kind of an asshole and petty as hell