NL washing help!

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    I'm washing a NL
    lv 139 HP: 7650 MP: 2856

    I want to hit about 12500 by level 155 or 170
    currently i have 29 base int and 71 int equips to total of 100 int

    According to the guide, i need about 258 wash before i can hit my goal by 155 and 223 by 170
    if someone could confirm or correct my calc that would be really helpful thanks!
     
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    I did your calculations, and that you need 258/223 washes by 155 and 170 are correct, I found the amount washes to be a bit lower, but only by a few. (Depends on the random HP gain each wash between 20-24, and if you took into account the natural HP gain of a thief (22*lvl))
    By 170 I calculated that you need 208 washes.

    you get 22*31 = 682 HP naturally
    7650+682 = 8332 total HP at 170
    12500 - 8332 = 4162 HP you need
    4162/20 = 208 washes you need(worst case scenario)

    Your problem is that you dont have enough MP to actually wash this many times.
    You currently have 2856 MP, the minumum MP for a thief at 139 is 148+(14*139) = 2094, which leaves you with 762 spare MP.
    762/12 =63. You have 63 washes available right now.
    If we calculate the amount of MP you will get by 170. 100 INT=10 MP each lvl. 10*31 = 310.
    310/12 = 25 washes. which brings the total of your washes to 63+25 = 88.
    Which means you need another 120 washes.
    Lets say you want your goal by 170,. You need to prepare to put quite a lot of ap into INT.
    To get another 120 washes you need 120*12 = 1440 extra MP.
    In 31 levels you need a gain of 1440/31 = 47 MP pr lvl. Which means you need another 470 INT each lvl up.
    So you either need to adjust your HP goal, either by lowering it, or delaying it. Or AP reset into INT now, but that will be really expensive.

    Solution: MP WASH (I believe)
    You should at least put another point into INT, and start MP washing.
    If you MP wash each level with 30 int, you will gain another 3*5*31 =465 MP.
    But you need 1440 extra MP, so by 170 you need 1440/(5*31) =9,3 = 10
    to have 10 extra mana pr level, which will be 100 INT base.
    So with 100 INT from level 139 and MP washing each level guarantees you to have 12.5k by 170.
    I did not calculate the natural MP gain with the new amount of INT.
    So you dont need 100 INT, but probably 80 or 90.
    MP washing will cost you 5 AP resets per level, and you also need to wash the 208 times, which will bring the total to 155+208 = 363 AP RESETS.

    I bet I did some calculations wrong, please call me out if I did.
    If my calculations are correct you will struggle to get 12.5k HP.

    Hope this was of any help. :) good luck

    TLDR:
    You need to MP wash and increase your base int.
    Adjust your HP goal, or be ready to spend more mesos.
    Edit, added solution. and TLDR
     
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    Wow this is amazing i think this lines up with what i was worried about thank you so much for taking your time to do this!
     
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