My other suggestion thread was closed so I decided to focus on this in more detail as I do think it's the more reasonable suggestion of the two. Look around and click on players in the game, you'll see 90+% of them have just the default medals, and maybe Ellin Forest Guardian. In my opinion this is a decently hard challenge that shows you worked on your character. At least give an alternative for us who work on our characters in other ways and either have characters who are nonviable in VL, don't know relevant people to get in or are not interested, and don't want to spend 2.5b*n mesos on Hero's Will 10 when we don't need it. How to get 30 medals? Here's a list of obtainable medals as of now that can get you to 30 (hard medals in bold): 1. Well-Behaved Child 2-6. Beginner Adventurer/Junior Adventurer/Veteran Adventurer/Master Adventurer/level 200 medal for your job 7-17. Beginner/El Nath/Ludus Lake/Undersea/Mu Lung/Nihal Desert/Minar Forest/Ossyria/Sleepywood/Victoria/Maple Explorer 18. The One Who Touched The Sky 19. Diligent Explorer 20. Wonderful Pet Owner 21. Persevering Challenger 22. Ellin Forest Guardian 23. Ergoth's Bane* 24-27. Spirit Diviner/Soul Conjurer**/Soul Guardian/Saint Exorcist 28-32. New Collector/Renowned Collector/Amazing Collector/Master Collector/Legendary Collector 33-34. Quest Specialist/Quest Virtuoso 35. Dynamic Hair +Anniversary/Winter medals if you're desperate * Can be hard if not in a GPQ-friendly guild/don't know the right people. **44 ZMM is kind of unpleasant.. Even without the retired/seasonal medals and bolded medals, 30 medals is doable with some effort. In fact I'm tempted to suggest 31; 30 is just a nicer number.
Getting the Legendary Collector medal in my opinion is an arduous journey. If you have it, then you should get a task goal for Olaf #10 without having to get the other medals in my opinion. Same could be said for Quest Virtuoso. I'll probably make a thread in the future on a possible suggestion for Alt HP gains for gathering Card Sets and Medal Collection (though not sure how feasible it'd be).
I support this since I already have 32 medals. But for real, I see so many Ellin Forest Guardians whenever there's Ola Ola. There are plenty of medals that are better than 3 all stat. Even Quest Specialist (5 all stat, 150 HP/MP) isn't that hard if you actually play the game instead of buying 125 levels of leech. On all of my characters, I typically already had around 600-650 quests done by the time I started actively thinking about getting the quest medals. Most of the medals are rather underwhelming so Olaf's extra quest would have to be worth it for people to grind 30 medals. Even though about half of them involve just walking around, people would definitely complain or beg for door service instead of going into one of the weird Kerning outskirts maps themselves.
I absolutely see where you are coming from (I only finished Legendary Collector once and felt like quitting several times during the grind ) however part of my goal was to give some value to the "trivial"/"non-meta" medals as well.
In my opinion this isn't needed. Olaf 10 gives only 2 things: a medal that's barely better than the lv 200 one (yayyyy 5 extra acc/avoid), and 5 4th job SP. Neither of these are essential, or even all that useful, with one exception: the 5 SP is necessary for some jobs like BW paladin to max will 10. In which case you already have will 10, so there's no need to add another task. In other words, there's only really 2 reasons to complete this quest: You're a completionist/flexing, in which case making it easier somewhat cheapens the medal. You need the SP for will 10, in which case you already have Will 10 and don't need another task.
Olaf 10's task selection contains a few things basically handed to you (Echo, Red Draco, and if Meta Garden monsters count the 5k LHC monsters is a handout too). There's the tokens which are a fair grind, but you're then forced to pick either the Von Leon kill or HW 10. HW10 is not only expensive, unpredictable, and not necessary for some players, it is also often sold within VL groups from what I understand. So the Ultimate Adventurer medal is pretty much a Von Leon medal which is pretty one-dimensional. Adding more challenges would only hurt VL hosts who may want to sell the VL kill (as a belt sale, since people buying the kill may as well go for the belt) or marked up HW10. These people can suggest an actual "VL slayer" medal then if they want to flex that they've been there, done that. I imagine seeing the belt in their profile is enough proof, though, like seeing someone wearing Crown of Flowers tells you they PQed a lot. If 30 medals is deemed a walk in a park, by all means make it 1) 33 medals or 2) 30 medals including Legendary Collector/Quest Virtuoso
my ¢2, almost all those medals are not worthy of a level 10 task, even in a bundle. legendary collector should be it's own singular task, and virtuoso should be it's own singular task. dynamic hair just requires nx/rp. ergoth's bane is the only difficult one due to server compartmentalization. soul conjurer is easily acquired through legendary collector, along with basically every other medal due to organically travelling to most maps when doing virtuoso/legendary. those two medals are serious undertakings of dedication and time, i don't see the point of bundling them with some other super trivial ones. the small time medals could be bundled into lower level assignments.
If you want QV/LC as tasks, I have no issues as all my main characters will instantly +1 or +2 for Olaf 10 . But I wanted to provide some motivation to go after the "trivial" medals as well. My previous post has my response to this point (33/34/35 medals or 30 but one needs to be QV/LC), but I also don't have a problem with medal bundles being added as tasks for lower levels. There's also that Legendary Virtuoso medal idea that's been requested on this forum, so that could be a separate achievement instead of being part of Olaf 10. I'd argue that in this min-maxing obsessed server, a detour like the Saint medals feels like hundreds of millions of mesos worth of time lost to some players, so a medal count task isn't written off that easily. You see people buying emeralds and glass shoes just for +1s towards quest medals...
Personally i do like the idea but there are ideas for new medals. Adding new medals after this change will cause problems. So we probaly have to wait out on that. Unfortunately i don't know when we will be able to add said new medals. Staff will reopen this whenever a decission for the other medals was made.
