Closed PizzaNL's overdue ban appeal

Character Name: PizzaNL
Last thing you did: Logged in to afk or something around 22nov'16
Why do you think you got banned?: For suspected RMT?
Ban message when attempting to log in: blocked or deleted account.

previous thread: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ban-appeal.109270/#post-607007

I know its been long overdue since i should address this properly, its because i've tried to sell off my items to quit & meanwhile think of the next class i should possibly play with, i was already losing motivation at that point of time, and the sudden ban just made it worse: i was like ok naaah this game aint working out. But guess where i am lmao tryna get a shot back in to the game.

Back to the serious 'stuff', as can be seen from Kai's reply to my previous thread, it seemed mostly likely that i was banned for RMT for the wealth i had accumulated.
I wish to state and explain that all wealth accumulated on the account is legit lmao (too bad for me if no one believes it) Hopefully me and my brothers can get unbanned too yeah, thanks.

 

i guess i got banned from my mega selling thread https://royals.ms/forum/threads/pizzas-mega-sale-95-17dps-s-b-46b.108885/#post-605302

Well everything here is a result of 3 players - me (pizzanl, fatboy95), my brother (buttondoll, donquixite) and my youngest brother (x3cute) efforts for playing over a year. The results of the items are from chaos-ing and making a profit out of it. My younger brother @ButtonDoll has had a 91/17 RC scrolled with all 30%s with only ONE white scroll, from even before the first new source patch. (i can dig up the thread to this if required). The RC was then sold for ws which started out his other scrolling streaks.. He even made 2x21wa pgc with that luck of his and even accidentally drop traded it away lmao which caused a preeety big woohaa here.. Hope this helps a little.

 

My nl PizzaNL and my bishop FatBoy95

 

Scrolls i believe were part of my brother's sale of his Sky Ski. https://royals.ms/forum/members/buttondoll.33890/ < link to his posts are here.
So back story is me and my brothers lost passion or whatever you called it after our precious wa21 cape (yes this shit again) got looted (k it was stupid to drop-trade aint denying it) so we wanted to quit, take a loooong break and come when we're over it. So part of this plan was to sell off everything we had, because we believe in the value or cs/ws rather than the items itself. As such, all of their equipment was transferred to my account. so i can screenshot and post on my mega selling thread here https://royals.ms/forum/threads/pizzas-mega-sale-95-17dps-s-b-46b.108885/

Anyway a little more background : My little brother buttondoll has a lil fame when it comes to scrolling or just this game in general, he made a 91/17 RC PURELY with 30%s and a single ws, that was before new source, i couldnt find the link sorry. And thus when we came back, me (pizzaNL FatBoy95), and my youngest brother (x3cute), poured all of our funds into my younger brother (buttondoll, kittyycat, donquixite) and he has indeed scrolled some marvelous equips including 2x 21wa pgc, 20wa fs and so on. We also spent time farming and leeching on our bishop, we did not wash much as we believe that damage is more important and thus we dedicated bulk of our mesos on equipment upgrading instead. Some of our past deals that i could dig up using google:

https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-21-wa-pgc.103055/
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-10-wa-face-stompers.100525/
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-20-wa-pgc.101262/
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/scg-12-wa-3-slot.86869/
His profile : https://royals.ms/forum/members/buttondoll.33890/

To end off, i dont think 2 perfect claws + 2gloves is considered 'a lot' when its the collective inventory of 3 people. I hope this clarifies things a bit.
Thank you for your time, Tim.

 

Sorry to open this up but due to personal reasons and commitments, i've come to the decision that mapleroyals will still be the best casual place which i want to spend and commit my free time in. I realised that once i thought passed this concept 'its all about trio zak/ ht or doing everything else efficiently', royals actually has so much other content and social aspects to offer which would be a huge bonus in my life right now.

Moving on the the explanation, i'll list out all characters me and my brothers own.

Me: PizzaNL, FatBoy95(BS)
Brother1 : ButtonDoll (BS) , Donquixite or donquixote, kittyycat (cant remember for sure but should be around 135 bm with zero washing)
Brother2: x3cute

Our start of royals journey was that of me and brother1 selling low level leech with our bishops, and generally just doing some casual scrolling to get int gear or 80att RCs, until brother1 managed to scroll a 91/17 RC with purely 30s, and the whole thing only used 1ws in total. i believe this used to be quite famous in the past as people yoloing the last slot with a 30 is pretty unheard of, but we didnt have the funds to ws+10 (avg would be 10) so he just yolo-ed and went ahead. This was the start of us having more than normal mesos (breaking out of the low-level leech cycle, but still doing it for small meso boosts nonetheless). This claw was then sold for 16/17b (55-56ws/cs at that time if i remember correctly the rate was 300m for ws/cs)
thread of him attempting to sell 81/15/2slot rc before he finished last 2 slot: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/81-15-rc-2-slot.86941/
thread of him selling his rc 91/17, comments should support my claim that the claw only took 30% + ONE ws, we scrolled together with some friends https://royals.ms/forum/threads/perf-craven-for-sale-untagged.86974/

And with selling this 17/91 rc, he used the cs to scroll 2 capes, and a fs, namely a 20wa one https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-20-wa-pgc.101262/
and a 21wa one which unfortunately got looted (big hooha lol i bet you remember this)
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-21-wa-pgc.103055/page-2
and also a 15wa fs https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-15-wa-fs.100587/

Also me on the side my 22wa bwg was bought as a 3/6 bwg and fully chaosed (last slot was a 20/1 > 22)
x3cute's 20wa scg was also bought from a 8/5 scg and fully 30% + ws, about 6-7 ws used there. Logic was a 30% could end up 3 ways, 30% pass, 35% fail, 35%boom, so ws could take the fail out of the picture, we reduced our risks to just 35% for the boom.
my 95/17 dps was bought clean (60/10) for 7-8b from someone who gached if i remembered correctly, scrolled finish in 22ws, half sponsored by brother1 and half through leeching.
x3cute's 19/91 rc was bought 56/12 clean and 4x30% the rest 30+ws, didnt take much, brother1 sponsored about 6-7 ws for this.
However the best thing that happened to me was gach-ing a 110 bow, which brother1 finished in less than 20 WS, i remember this because i forced him to ws+10+dummy he wanted to 30% it... jesus.., which was eventually sold as he didnt like bowmaster, it was sold for a/w 30b by an anon bidder https://royals.ms/forum/threads/145-dragon-shiner-bow.101266/
I also scrolled a 17/2 red sock which went 16/0, big fail, should have accepted the offer in game to trade it for a 20/0 fs.

All these are items that i can pull off my memory, its been so long, and if i had known this day would come (when i was still playing there werent any cases of people getting banned for 'sus' activity, so as someone with a clear conscience i thought i'd be in the green), i would have definitely jot down the dates&times and how items were made, which i strongly advise any player to do so in order to not lose their account.
I didnt really care before (2years ago when i made the appeal, because our morale was at the lowest, 21wa cape being looted and nothing can be done about it), our mentality was, well if this server wanted us gone, then we'd be better off gone anyway, no help was given for the cape incident and now this happened when we didnt rwt, we also had the mindset that this game was 100% bossing and being 100% efficient.
Which i have a totally different mindset now after scrolling forums and seeing the latest accomplishment thread, people have different goals in this game and if i manage to look past the 'its all grinding and onyl bring strong attackers to trio bosses' stage, this game actually has so much social and other content to offer and i'd love to continue casually playing it.

The call is yours tim, i'd be happy to answer any questions that you have.

 

it was 10%-ed... my brother tried to psycho me to 30 like him lol but i didnt have the megaballs and the maths didnt work out in favour for 30% too

Edit: i know its been 4 years since my ban and i should have appealed earlier, but i'll try my best to recall every single detail and i'b be happy to answer any of your questions. I've been demoralised and hit by a few setbacks (generally getting 21wa cape looted and also banned for sus activity when being legit and we're all old players of at least 1year+ so that was a hit), but after playing other servers i dont think any other server can recreate the experience mr has given me. If the situation allows i'd love to be a part of this wonderful community again be it just doing assignments on the side and afk-ing in fm or doing some boss runs. Im appealing now because it just dosent sit right, being banned for suspicious activity when me and my brothers did not rwt at all, i know its your call and whatever memory i have may be limited but i'd be happy to assist in any way i can, thanks in advance.

 

I know it dosent sound realistic, im trying to prove through precedence that if a 17/91 RC can be scrolled with all 30%s with just one ws on the last slot, such luck isnt impossible. There are also many videos of people dummy-ing their ws+10s and getting good results, all i have to say is, it happened and its up to you whether to buy this story.

As for the clean weapons, the 110dsb was gached by me, 10/60 dps was bought through a combination of 19ws/cs (6cs 13ws if i recall correctly) from a lvl13x shadower after he gached it from kerning.
8/4 scg was bought by x3cute from a fm store for 1.1-1.3b to the best of his memory.
my 3/6 bwg was bought for 850-950m from owl as well.

hope this helps.

The 3 of us has always been clean as a book, heck we even took turns voting, i can see where you're coming from with this ban, and at that point of time we didnt care too much because our motivation was minimal, but now thinking now it sad to see that its come to this and idek if im getting unbanned

 

Times may have been different now, but back in the day 2016, people werent getting that much for suspicious activity, all im saying is, if i had known this day would come, i would have took videos/screenshots and even have igns to prove the legitimate existence of every high-profile item.

its not my call but it is truly unfair to be banned for something that i cannot prove, "guilty until proven innocent", and in this case i lack the evidence to prove myself. it is not uncommon to finish dummy-ing 7 slots in 25ws, im sure that everyone now knows the importance of keeping videos/ss/accurate timestamps of items they scrolled or bought, and in this case i would suggest to please put a disclaimer on the registration page:
"any player suspected of RMT or suspicious activity will be banned and guilty until proven innocent, if you as a player is fairly new and your accounts has unnatural wealth, you need evidence of how you acquired that wealth to prove your innocence"
or at least something like that.

Lastly its my words against yours, but i've (we have) been playing for close to 2 years, we're not some new player who came in to unnatural riches or some bullshit like trading a 8b ring for a perf ski, i hope you do see my point.

thanks for your time.

 

i know im second posting, but dont close this please.

its contradictory how averna gets unbanned because the admins have a way of checking (we checked and you have data of using 3000 gach tickets), while its the truth i used 25ws (3-4ws per slot) on my dps, just that the admins have no way to confirm that. im arguing based on this point that, had i known after playing for so long that things would end up like this, i would have obviously taken evidence in the form of ss and/or videos. using 3-4 ws per slot was not and is not uncommon, and that was just a 'lucky' endeaver. i've had many unlucky endeavers like the one where my 17/2 sock went 16/0. if you're still not convinced, let me do some maths to iron out my point.

It just so happens that some 'successes' were valued far over our 'failures' where chaos scrolling a 21wa pgc netted 61b while screwing up another item costed us much less. It is not the case of us seemingly possessing endless luck in *everything*, we do have failures but we were lucky in the sense that they costed us much more. Just like how people use dummy scroll for 10%s as they like to get 15-20 fails in a row and then try ws+10, its like thinking in batches of 20scrolls (and assuming every 20scrolls 2 will land as average luck), if you fail 15 in a row the next 5 will be more likely to land.

i wish i had a way to prove it to you but what i can only say is, we've played this game for a long time, we didnt have crazy hp nor did we 'hide' our equips to buddies / bossing squads, because back then we had nothing to hide. we're not some player with a month-old history. if i get unbanned, everytime something of exponential value is made i'll be sure to video or at least ss it. I believe all players should do this. I congratulate averna because the admins were able to verify his claims, but i do plead for my case.