I didn't know whether to put this in discussion, guides, or somewhere else, so I'll just leave it here to start. Hopefully this is a useful analysis, especially for people planning and shopping for upgrades. Maybe it can also spark some discussion about market pricing and game economy. A while back I was wondering what the best "bang for buck" was for CGS. Discussing single slot equip optimization is moot, because higher WA items never seem to be better meso/WA. However, multiple slot optimization is worth investigating because multivariable problems can have multiple solutions, and some solutions can be inferior to others. In order to do this, we need some price data - thank you @Pastural for their Spring 2025 price research (yay Kamuna!) This approximate pricing data is about an year old, so if you have updated prices please send them in! Spoiler: CGS Price Chart as of Spring 2025 (updated prices wanted!) attack cape gloves shoes 7 - - 2,200,000,000 8 - - 3,000,000,000 9 - - 4,500,000,000 10 2,300,000,000 - 6,200,000,000 11 3,200,000,000 - 8,500,000,000 12 4,500,000,000 - 11,000,000,000 13 6,000,000,000 - 14,000,000,000 14 8,300,000,000 - 16,000,000,000 15 11,000,000,000 2,000,000,000 23,000,000,000 16 15,000,000,000 3,000,000,000 30,000,000,000 17 19,000,000,000 6,300,000,000 40,000,000,000 18 25,000,000,000 9,200,000,000 53,000,000,000 19 33,000,000,000 12,000,000,000 - 20 50,000,000,000 19,000,000,000 - 21 65,000,000,000 22,500,000,000 - 22 - 28,000,000,000 - 23 - 43,000,000,000 - 24 - 85,000,000,000 - We can then use this price data to crudely perform multi-variable optimization (pls don't look at my python ). There are no inferior (dominated) solutions, but some equivalent ones like 37, 40, 43, and 61 WA. If there's any other analysis you'd like to see I can try to cook them up! Total WA Total Cost (M) Total Cost/WA (M) Cape Cost (M) Cost/WA (M) Gloves Cost (M) Cost/WA (M) Shoes Cost (M) Cost/WA (M) 32 6,500 203 10 2,300 230 15 2,000 133 7 2,200 314 33 7,300 221 10 2,300 230 15 2,000 133 8 3,000 375 34 8,200 241 11 3,200 290 15 2,000 133 8 3,000 375 35 9,200 262 11 3,200 290 16 3,000 187 8 3,000 375 36 10,500 291 12 4,500 375 16 3,000 187 8 3,000 375 37 12,000 324 12 4,500 375 16 3,000 187 9 4,500 500 " 12,000 324 13 6,000 461 16 3,000 187 8 3,000 375 38 13,500 355 13 6,000 461 16 3,000 187 9 4,500 500 39 15,200 389 13 6,000 461 16 3,000 187 10 6,200 620 40 17,500 437 13 6,000 461 16 3,000 187 11 8,500 772 " 17,500 437 14 8,300 592 16 3,000 187 10 6,200 620 41 19,800 482 14 8,300 592 16 3,000 187 11 8,500 772 42 22,300 530 14 8,300 592 16 3,000 187 12 11,000 916 43 25,000 581 13 6,000 461 16 3,000 187 14 16,000 1,142 " 25,000 581 15 11,000 733 16 3,000 187 12 11,000 916 44 27,300 620 14 8,300 592 16 3,000 187 14 16,000 1,142 45 30,000 666 15 11,000 733 16 3,000 187 14 16,000 1,142 46 33,300 723 15 11,000 733 17 6,300 370 14 16,000 1,142 47 36,200 770 15 11,000 733 18 9,200 511 14 16,000 1,142 48 39,000 812 15 11,000 733 19 12,000 631 14 16,000 1,142 49 43,000 877 16 15,000 937 19 12,000 631 14 16,000 1,142 50 47,000 940 17 19,000 1,117 19 12,000 631 14 16,000 1,142 51 53,000 1,039 18 25,000 1,388 19 12,000 631 14 16,000 1,142 52 57,500 1,105 17 19,000 1,117 21 22,500 1,071 14 16,000 1,142 53 63,000 1,188 17 19,000 1,117 22 28,000 1,272 14 16,000 1,142 54 69,000 1,277 18 25,000 1,388 22 28,000 1,272 14 16,000 1,142 55 76,000 1,381 18 25,000 1,388 22 28,000 1,272 15 23,000 1,533 56 83,000 1,482 18 25,000 1,388 22 28,000 1,272 16 30,000 1,875 57 91,000 1,596 19 33,000 1,736 22 28,000 1,272 16 30,000 1,875 58 101,000 1,741 19 33,000 1,736 22 28,000 1,272 17 40,000 2,352 59 114,000 1,932 19 33,000 1,736 22 28,000 1,272 18 53,000 2,944 60 129,000 2,150 19 33,000 1,736 23 43,000 1,869 18 53,000 2,944 61 146,000 2,393 20 50,000 2,500 23 43,000 1,869 18 53,000 2,944 " 146,000 2,393 21 65,000 3,095 22 28,000 1,272 18 53,000 2,944 62 161,000 2,596 21 65,000 3,095 23 43,000 1,869 18 53,000 2,944 63 203,000 3,222 21 65,000 3,095 24 85,000 3,541 18 53,000 2,944
Can you shorten tables to just be millions instead of full mesos? The full width doesn't fit well and there's no nice scrollbar to use. Anyways good work now can you go implement the rest of my gear optimizer spreadsheet? I'm too lazy to do most of it
I was wondering if it even fit in other peoples screens, guess not! Updated. (what else are you doing in your optimizer?)
Well, it calculates mainstat and offstat value relative to WA, and then it finds CGS/weapon/belt prices (estimated belt prices based off VL belt scrolling costs). But still missing things like earrings, rings, top/bot/overall, eye, and shield. Maybe also some more untrade stuff but that's a lot harder to pin prices down on, especially with one of a kind stuff.
I feel like at that point you're re-implementing the game client (okay if you give me price data I'll try to see what I can do)
