Question Regarding HP Washing Calculator

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    Hi there!

    I had a question about using @Shiyui's HP Washing Calculator.

    The following is my relevant character's info:
    • Job: Night Lord
    • Level: 45
    • Current HP: 1549
    • Current MP: 1341
    • Current Base Int: 178 (target base int: 250)
    • Int Gear Total Int: 50
    • HP Goal: 18250
    • Level for HP Goal: 155
    With the above numbers, along with wanting to stop using int gear at level 135, I get the following:

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    My question here is with respect to the instructions on the bottom left. When it mentions the following:
    I just want to make sure that when it says "310AP into HP Total" for both ranges, it simply means that between the levels of 60-100 and 136-200, somewhere/sometime get 310AP into HP, is that correct?
     
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    It means you HP-wash every time you level up, if you can. If you can't. put it into LUK/DEX.
    Put your AP to HP and you may reset it into DEX/LUK taking away from MP.
    HP-washing with fresh AP from a level up gives NLs more HP than simply washing with an AP-reset. It is therefore adviced that you put it into HP, to save washes and MP in the long run.
    Always put your level-up AP into either HP or MP, and reset it back from MP, do this until you reach your goal or do not wish to wash anymore. I believe the calculator just requires you to at least put 310 from fresh AP, I would advice you to put all of it into HP, if you can of course.

    Have fun mapling :)
     
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    Thanks for the answer, I think that clears up most of my concerns, but I have a few more clarifying questions ~f12

    With respect to this, when you say if you can/can't means if I am too close to my minimum MP (< 12 MP away from minimum MP) to simply add the AP into DEX/LUK and wait until it's feasible to HP wash, correct? Otherwise this period from 60-100 and 136-200 I simply do a regular HP wash until I am satisfied with my HP amount.

    Sorry, but could you possibly expand on this point slightly? I understand that with fresh AP from a level up, MP-washing (placing an AP into MP and then using an APR to remove a point from MP and put it back into INT) with higher base INT is beneficial in that it nets us more MP thus giving us more MP to work with in order to HP wash moving forward. I'm a little confused by what you mean by "It is therefore advised that you put it into HP, to save washes and MP in the long run," with respect to the fresh AP advantage.
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    And just for full clarity, based on the calculator's recommendations, I should be doing the following:
    • 45-60: AP into INT
    • 60-100: HP-wash whenever possible (AP into HP, APR from MP to LUK), otherwise AP into LUK
    • 101-135: MP-wash (AP into MP, APR from MP to LUK)
    • 136-200: HP-wash whenever possible (AP into HP, APR from MP to LUK until satisfied with HP amount), otherwise AP into LUK
     
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    1. Yes. You are correct. You can and should when extraMP>= 12.

    2. The game is like it is. I do not know why. Thieves gain 20HP whenever they put AP to HP. If thieves put AP to HP from a AP-reset, they gain 16-20. Randomly generated, averaging 18 HP. So using AP from level up will get you 2 more HP. Meaning you have to spend 5% less MP on washing.
    This is only true for thieves. For archers there is no difference, they gain the same from fresh AP and AP from AP-resets.
    Therefore thieves should always try to HP-wash with fresh HP.


    It will save you 5% of the MP you gain, which we will say also is 5% mesos. AND it allows you to MP-wash for fewer levels.
    So for 18k HP which would cost maybe 10b. You save 500m. And if you factor in leeching for another couple of levels after 135. You could save another couple of 100m's on top of that. (Just some rough estimates).

    Your last paragraph for clarity seems to be a better way to explain where you should allocate your AP. And is roughly what I was and am currently doing on my NL.
    Yes. Do that.
    But keep in mind you have to wash with just APR too, to reach your goal. There is a limited number of AP gained from level up. And for 18k HP you won't have enough. So you have to wash for 18 HP, instead of 20. This you can do whenever you have enough MP.

    Happy mapling :)
     
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    Awesome, thanks so much for all the help!
     
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