Questions about Lukless Mages/Dexless Rogues etc.

Salohacin · Apr 4, 2015

I'd completely forgotten that statless builds were a thing (as in the up to date maple characters just auto fill stats to there primary stat and that's that). How easy/hard are they to make starting from scratch (with no money)? What are the advantages of going for a luckless mage (or str.less archer etc) over a traditional mix of both primary stats?

I recall Dexless rogues (ninja star throwers in particular) being very predominant in the past, are they specifically better than other statless classes or was it just a feeling I had?

Thanks in advance.
Salohacin

Plenty · Apr 5, 2015

Here are some notes about the debate over Lukless and NonLukless:

There's been a debate on whether going the traditional route of adding Luk to wear higher tier weapons and armors is better than going Luk-less and stick with only weapons and armors that require no Luk, but still give a sizable amount of Magic Attack and Int. I'm going to give my side of this argument, but feel free to choose one over the other for whatever reason you may have.

I believe going Luk-less is the better choice between the two. Why? I'm going to prove my stance by debunking common claims:
The higher tier weapons have much higher Magic Attack than the lower tier weapons
While this is true, most of them also require a bunch of Luk. Take, for example, Elemental Staves 5-8. They have extremely high Magic Attack, but with an extremely high Luk requirement to wield them. 1 Int equals 1 Magic Attack whereas 1 Luk doesn't increase Magic Attack at all so we can just subtract the Luk requirement from the Magic Attack and we'll get the actual value of the Staves itself. Of course, you will have equipment that will add Luk, but it's not going to be enough to even consider the higher level weapons.
With the Godly System, I can easily get clean equipment with higher clean bases than Luk-less armor
Again, true, however let's not forget that Luk-less Mages will also have a good amount of Luk from equips such as Zakum Helmets and Horntail Necklaces. With those Luk boosts, Luk-less Mages have access to lower tier Luk Mage equips that also play a role into the Godly System without having to put a single point into Luk.
Lower tier armors have barely any weapon defense
Weapon defense doesn't matter much when you're thinking long term. Most of the monsters hit high on you whether you have a lot of weapon defense or not. The armor pieces that arguably gives the most weapon defense are Zakum Helmets and Horntail Necklaces which both are Luk-less.
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Salohacin · Apr 5, 2015

Thanks, I assume this is the case with all classes going for one stat only? (I'm curious as to whether or not a dexless warrior would work as it would have no accuracy)

Sila · Apr 5, 2015

As for dexless/low dex sins, here's this:
http://royals.ms/forum/threads/a-comprehensive-night-lord-guide.23303/#APBuild

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