Hey, Right now, rage and meditation doesn't stack with other attack pots, while they are giving the same bonus as NLC potions and last for 2 minutes only. That makes the skills useless. The only use is for lazy players that don't buy NLC potions or who doesn't know it. I suggest to boost those skills to energizer boost +-. That will make players use it without a real balance change (of course when it last for only 2 minutes). It won't effect bossing because everyone is using stoppers/apple anyway.
I don't see why this should be changed, energizers are already really cheap for what they give, and buffing these skills would just lower the price of energizers even more.
Enegizers will be better because it last for 30minutes. Cheaper enegizers is better from 2 total useless skills.
Energizers are used while grinding as they last such a long time, while giving better att/m.att than their buff counterpart, if we buffed rage/meditate to energizer level then no one would buy energizers anymore as rebuffing a skill every few minutes takes no time at all.
It's exactly the point. It can encourage people for grinding parties because they get more value from that (save the energizer cost).
Energizers would still be used, because there are classes out there that do not have an attack up buff. Even then, most people will still use potions over skills so they can use skill points elsewhere (Dragon's Blood). I think it is really dumb that there are so many useless skills out there (Iron Will, Iron Body, Rage, Meditation.) Maybe allowing them to stack with potions would be viable? I doubt it would be too 'overpowered.'
Almost every class has useless skills to the point it's not even worth adding points to them . Those 2 skills are far from being useless , I have used both of them a lot while grinding my chars , it's a free buff and takes 1 second to recast it. I'm against buffing the attack/magic attack on them but maybe a longer time duration could be nice
I actually use Meditation all the time on my FP mage lol. It's troublesome to get the potions from NLC now that you need fast travel to get there quickly and they also take use slots that can be used for better things. The skill lasts 200 seconds (not 2 minutes) and has a very fast casting animation (unlike magic booster which has a slow animation). It's surely better than the Slow skill in 2nd job, I don't see how slowing mobs will help you at all.
It's just your mistake for not having fast travel. You get there once and buy 1k pots - and you don't think on it anymore (20k mesos +- is nothing in this server). It last for minimum x2 more time. You right, there are more useless skills. It doesn't mean you shouldn't try make any other one useful. And no, that you are lazy doesn't make it useful.
Meditation is such a useless skill in the sense that it has almost zero uses for being a party buff. The only mages in game that are the magician class and only bishops can get buffed by it, at the same time they have no need for that extra magic to train. I would prefer meditation to be a passive +20 magic or even % magic attack, then magic pots can have a better effect as well being able to not overlap with meditation cast buff
Meditation and rage are good supplements even if there are potions that are better they still cost money. There are more useless skills at the moment that should be tampered with, but rage and meditation aren't one of them. Not to mention they're 2nd job skills
My inventory is always full too with all the scrolls and potions and stuff lol, and I think mage elixir has like 100 per slot or so? I'd rather just not use potions at all, all they do is show higher damage on the screen lol (you can 1 hit without them anyway)
I don't really feel like buffing Arch Mages even more is the way to go. No support. I also use medi on my Arch Mage.
I think of it as: If you can't afford it, then use Rage/Mediation. But if you want the extra damage, then you'll have to pay for it!
I disagree with changing anything on Meditation, as it gives a good m.att boost for free, and mages are already OP on what they're supposed to do. But I agree with making Rage stack with potions, so it would make heroes most useful for bossing as it would give a buff to the party. It's only 10att (not 12att like NLC Potion).
