Hello, Simple request as I made a hermit for fun and am killing HH at level 80, completely rubish that a bunch of level 170's and 180's + are killing them. How annoying is it and why can't we let the low level people having fun killing HH for fun. Seeing this guy hero kill all of them infront of me I am on CC8... He clears all channels to 20 in the time I kill one.............. I could have gotten to level 95 in one night! Just silly SMH. It would be nice to enjoy killing them with out them getting cleaned by people clearly who have no reason to kill them then the NX cards themselves. Because it is amazing EXP and fun to party up and kill them at low level. It is worth it to HS and get a friend to come along. Oh unless a level 200 kills them all in about 20 mins. Thanks...
Supposed if we should let low-level players kill area bosses for fun, would need to remove NX from all of the area bosses though
I came across a HH's KSer in the past: https://royals.ms/forum/threads/killstealer-report-xlasthero.88475/ Tim responded very nicely for which I have a lot of respect and with a lot of logic behind it in my opinion personally if I may add. But if you want to be sure to catch that kind of a guy who does that kind of thing? Have your screen/game recorder ready when you solo those bosses for sure. ~mapowner is an advantage but it is not a conclusive evidence. It can be for blacklist community but not for a report which I imagine you already know. However my 2 cents here is that, simply "no" from my part to the question in hand. I wouldn't hunt them purely for exp if they had no other value either, could go many other ways to leech/solo train my character. Where I can have the respect of choosing another channel, specially when someone is on it and mapowner is still available for that invidiual (because in that case I have no right to take that boss on for myself nor anyone else!), but not everyone thinks the same unfortunately. We're not talking about revenge but simple justice, and as Tim hinted very well on my thread which I came to conclusion as well fast enough, you would need enough evidence to report that person, specially when it occurs more than once. So my suggestion would be: - any kind of recorder really, no matter the quality of the software your PC can handle just something to show live. - keep killing mobs (for HH it's either jr.wraiths or trees mostly right?) so you could keep the mapownership - and lastly but not least, be prepared to take evidence if it seems already off in your mind. Better safe than sorry, cause that person could just as well be doing that to a bunch of other people. But my conclusion to not put aside this feedback's topic, I'm absolutely against the removal of income from such bosses even if they are area ones. Because regardless however other people use it or play the game? Why can't I play the way I enjoy and get the benefits that everyone else is getting as well. Given how much the server has also advanced (good ways obviously as well, but the mere feeling of getting also something else aside from EXP, specially for players who either started out or go Iron Mode and want to achieve that with hopeful drop benefits).
I mean my main focus is I am level 80, I legit got like 90% per kill at that level. Amazing exp, and by far the best exp for a dexless hermit I have. The math on this 18x killing them all even if he killed EVERY SINGLE CHANNEL IN EVERY MAP that would be... 5% from 199 to 200. That is such a small amount, when if you were hunting BF's you'd get way more exp. Considering you can kill HH at that level in a few seconds you'd think people would not care. BUT! Since nx cards drop every area boss is 100% priority, that means screw that level 80 hermit trying to get levels, and help his friends get boosted (hh leech is a thing and good if you have a lower level that can solo with HS). It just overall ruins it. I can't describe how fun it is to kill a HH at 80 because I worked so hard. Yeah I can leech on a bishop and get to 100 way faster, but who cares. This is stuff I grew up doing on my hermit in GMS. But in GMS you found them everywhere, infact no on really touched them. The only place you would not see them is in areas that a BF was because they would kill them while killing BF. This is not the case however as I seen people go str8 for the HH because it is the fastest way to get NX. Low HP, has a chance to drop all levels of the NX card. Just fix it. Let people who didn't HP wash in GMS (because it really wasn't even a thing), and killed BF's at 100 and HH at 80 have fun.... The economy isn't in disaray because you remove NX from HH. I don't think Matt or anyone could come up with a logical reason not to change this. The whole server could come to this post. NO ONE, could explain a legit claim to keep the NX cards. The server economy is fine, the quest is easy to do and the ETC drops a lot. This would make it to where less people are prone to hunt all the HH and leave them for other players to have fun. It could even make HH leeching more viable. Because trust me, the exp at those levels is amazing. I think around 100 it just kinda slows down a lot, that is when I switched to BF's. Now tell me, what does this change hurt? No one. Who does this help? Everyone who isn't hp washing and actually leveling instead of leeching. Take for granted that is about 90% of the server anyways...
Yes, the EXP is great at that level. But they respawn every 6 hours (keep in mind the respawn time is dynamic) so there is plenty of HH for everyone in the long run. NX farming from bosses and area bosses is a big part of the economy. Especially if you don't want to sell leech. Why single out HH as the only lvl 100+ boss not to have the 1k/5k cards? This is also, at its core, what a MMORPG is about: competition for and scarcity of resources.
I didn't HP wash my NL very far, and will not. You're gonna take away the drops from hunting HH's, it is definitely NOT going to please people. Aside from EXP what do you get? I mean might as well stick to balrog on Orbis ship (comedic response). I understand your frustration, but if we actually go back to old school maple? Think of Skele KSing from that time period. I'm DEFINITELY not accepting that kind of behavior but I'm saying that whereas, at times everyone is at BF's and I have no chance, there are also times where no one is around and I get as many as I can. Loots are quite nice, and taking away NX cards from HH? no. I'll add one more example, why would they add maps with both HH and BF on it? from before I mean already. Because just as you stated that it would be advantage for the EXP for you or your fellow(s), same way it is an advantage for people for EXP + drops. No offense meant, Cheers!
I hunted these from late 2nd job, to almost 4th job, on my Sair. What I found was that sometimes it took a bit of effort to find them, but it was still more enjoyable than me to just killing normal monsters. Had I wanted a more 'constant' EXP source though, then that is what I would have done instead. Maybe also try playing at a different time of day?
Honestly, I don't care if people are upset about it lol. The fact is zero negative will come of it. It will increase the amount of HH for lower levels and help people level faster when having a bossing char. Also I don't care to leech, again that is what I see 90% of people do rather than grind so... But it probably wont happen because again, like you everyone wants the NX cards for more nx. All you gotta do for nx is wait 1 month and vote. Boom buncha gach ez clap... Many other ways to get NX this again, will have ZERO impact on the server. No one has stated the real repercussions of this excpt people will be upset lol.
Time to get flamed Real talk though I’m not farming them or any other area boss long ago but thats one of the early ways I even funded myself, by doing that on my hero as early as I could before I even made this NL. And I’m far from being the only person who have done it. People who don’t farm nx (even those who play for years) really underestimate how profitable it actually is and if the alternative is to remove a big chunk of that income from HH and force the mage farming meta on (mostly) new(er) players even more than it’s forced now, I will have to strongly disagree. If not for nx farming, I would personally quit when just starting out.
HH is normally much easier to find, it's because people are after the anniversary boxes (or coins) right now.
Hunting HH for NX is just as valid as hunting HH for exp. That freedom and competitiveness comes with the area boss concept. We don’t plan to change HH‘s droptable or restrict it in any other way. Thanks for your feedback!
