Second World?

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Add a second world to MapleRoyals?

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  2. No

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  1. jinjae
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    I was browsing through forums and came across this thread:
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/should-mapleroyals-consider-adding-a-second-world.68404/
    (from 2016)

    It was also brought up in older posts, and here they just in case you were curious:
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    2015

    This was discussed around June of 2016, where the player base was allegedly around 400-600? people and one of the main reasons for people being against this suggestion was due to not having a big enough population.

    I even saw that @Matt was in support of this idea on the 2016 thread.

    Just thinking in terms of how the server is now, this new world could encourage new/old players to join for a fresh start, no annoying rwt players (yet), chance for Staff to change rates? gameplay?

    Just wanted to see if opinions have changed (since the server has obviously changed since 2016) and if this suggestion is even viable.
    LOL pls don't flame me if you don't like this opinion.
     
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    People are always asking for a new server or a wipe because of the stage the server has come to. What I think is .. One of the big reasons why so many relatively-new-to-the-server people have been asking for a wipe or a new world is because they think currently the bar is so high and they're lazy and they want to be a top player.

    Obviously a new world would encourage new players to join in but it would only split up the community. Many people have spent years to this game and undoubtedly they would stay while the new comers would see no harm in moving on to a new world and trying to make a name of themselves there as they would have a better chance of doing so.

    People give the reason that there are godly items everywhere in the server or that the bar is too high. For what it matters, it's much easier now to get your hands on things than what it was when people have first started the server years ago. It's much easier to level up, find pq, sell/buy items, make mesos, become strong at a significantly shorter amount of time than what it used to be. This server is almost 5 years old and obviously the ones who'd stayed here and given the most amount of effort here would be at a better stage in the game compared to the rest of the server and the same would apply if a new world was introduced.

    Another reason people claim is that a new server would feel more nostalgic to them. Complaining about how in royals you only leech and hp wash ... MapleStory is a game where what you get out of this game is what you make of it. If you want to play without washing, without leeching then go ahead. MapleStory is an amazing open-world game where you can travel to any map at any level and train in any way you want. If you don't like what the norm is in the server, then you don't have to unwillingly do that. And about the nostalgia, many people think the nostalgia is training your character at the same maps you trained at years ago and trying to re-live the exact same stuff you lived years ago. You get the nostalgia feeling because of the memories you've made back then, and the real nostalgia, the real reason why everyone fell in love with this game was because you challenged yourself, made new friends, partied with new people, traveled around, hung out with new people and experienced new things, which then, created those memories. That's why it feels so special to re-live those moments. But you cannot re-create them exactly. Who says you can't do any of that here either? Make new friends, meet people, party with people, travel to new places you haven't been to back in the day if there are any, and experience new things, new things than what you did years ago.

    You don't need a new world or a new server to make new memories here and with the new memories you've created maybe in the future you'll have the nostalgia feeling for this place. Every path is possible in this game and it's up to you to choose how you want to play the game.

    As for administration of a new world .. How would you recommend that be handled when it's difficult enough to handle 1 world. Divide the staff or hire a new set of staff for a new world? Give the current ones double the responsibility out of their volunteer efforts? Divide the administration in 2 for each world to monitor players/gameplay/issues/staff? All of these would be terribly hard and maybe even lead to us losing this world too. Instead of half-ass'ing 2 things at once, why not full-ass one thing?

    So to sum-up, my answer would be: if you want to be as good as the top 5% of the server, then admit that you're behind and take action, give some effort like those people have given years of, be patient as those people have been, and work your way up yourself. If you're sick of the norm of this server and don't want to do the same stuff as everyone else, then do what you like, no one is going to judge you for your gameplay.
     
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    You'll know it's time to add another world when you start seeing people frequently selling maps via smega again.

    Until then, dividing a small(ish) population would be terrible for the overall health of the community.
     
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    Kate summarized almost everything I had in my mind!

    Creating a New World will only provide temporary solutions to many problems we encounter in royals such as RWT/Hacking/Vote abuse. Where there is popularity, problems are prone to follow no matter how well the server is regulated. Players are humans and humans are smart. If one could find ways to block certain Hacks or RWT methods, us humans will find other loopholes because nothing can be utterly perfect.

    I still remember my early days in royals. Every hour or so I'd see walls of blue text congratulating Horntail slayers (back then I didn't even dare to think of getting there myself). I started with a humble mind. I used to work really hard just to buy a low lvl mage gear but I was satisfied with every little progression. I have come so far only because I focused on my original goal, which was to enjoy maplestory, but never looked down on myself nor compared with richer, older players who have already reached the end-game.

    Every old player had their newbie days where they also struggled like everyone else. It'd only be fair if everyone has equal opportunity.

    This makes me wonder and doubt something actually. New players in general, even if one has experienced other pre-servers before, would usually start with a moderately realistic, low goal because they are still in the adapting phase of the new environment. But, a lot of "new" people seem well acknowledged of royal's current situation (bar is high but how do they all know that, if they only joined in new source and never experienced the low-bar-era?) and start off with big ambition. 3 months into royals, I was still figuring out what godly system was or what this Broccoli looking-tree boss was. My 6th sense says a lot of ban evaders are present among us with their prior knowledge and expectations still intacto_O.
     
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    I had a lot of fun starting new worlds back in GMS. The race to be world first was pretty rad. It's not the same without a base of players all going for it tho.
     
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    2 years into royals, still figuring out what godly system is or what this broccoli looking tree boss is
     
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    At least for me it's not about the bar set between the veterans and newer players it's about the state of the game and how the current meta is. The statement "Worry about yourself not others" isn't the reality because people can't help noticing what other people are doing and being influenced by it which creates the standard and goal for most maplers who play. If you think otherwise then why would Mapleroyals not let us customize our drop and exp rates? 2 times a day Zakum and Horntails? Why did they put a limit on Papalatus? Were people leveling and collecting items too fast? Why are those limits in place if it's up to everyone to worry about their self? It's because owners know it's up to them to establish how the game will be played and they know if they give the option for people to play Royals on 4x or 30x drop, people will either leave the server or play on 30x drop cause they rather go with the flow even if it feels wrong to them. Maybe you feel a 30x drop rate for Royals is bad, and if you do, it might be the same way the people who dislike leeching feel. It's just 1 incredibly strong leveling method in which the character being leeched isn't fighting monsters on his own and is leveling much faster than someone soloing. Weren't private servers like these made to be different from the path the current Mapelstory took? Example being certain classes/maps/items/skill/equipment being so powerful that other content is completely ignored or abandoned by a good chunk of the population?

    I'm not an old veteran in this server, but I loved leveling a new character back then. It was easy to meet and train with people while leveling from pig beach, kpq, octopus, lpq, lmpq, ws parties, himes duo, squids etc. It's easier to get by without doing all that stuff so why would people do it if it's not only slower than leech, but it's even more difficult to find a party for some of those things? If I wanted to do some of those things now it would be for novelty reasons and not because there's some alternative benefit compared to the main one in reaching my goal. Not even mentioning that some people have their principles and don't like the imbalance in classes. One imbalance in that NL's are so amazing and they have the option of removing their biggest weakness by increasing their hp. Does it cost a lot of money and time to hp wash? Sure, but it's available and now they can literally overtake most of the classes at bosses since they do so much damage, have longer use of attack potions and may no longer need HB along with their 999 avoid and 30% dodge. Washed NL's can fight Toad boss which was clearly made for tankier classes to fight. I would love to fight showa bosses daily with my Warriors, but I can't get any accuracy or avoid washing, nor can I deal with getting infinite stunned so clearly some bosses were made for certain classes, but NL's are able to jet by and fight any boss now if they use a glitch/bug enough. And yes hp washing is a bug/glitch, why would an AP RESET not reset the hp point it's resetting? You remove 1 resource that you originally had to add that resource somewhere else, but for the hp stat the resource isn't removed and most people here think that's just natural. Would people be more inclined to call out the hp wash bug/glitch if AP resets didn't reset other ap points and you could stack every ap to 999? It's fine cause it helps one of the best classes lose their weakness and devalues tankier classes.

    As far as my current gameplay is, I leech people on 1 mage and have 3 other of my characters summons kill voodoos for me. Why do I want the game a different way but still follow the best meta method to get the most money and levels? "because people can't help noticing what other people are doing and being influenced by it which creates the standard and goal for most maplers who play." It's not always jealousy and envy of the top players. I personally don't aim for nostalgia and believe the owners really don't either even though they advertise it so much. They're just trying to create their own version of Maple and using choices they feel will make the game better and live longer.

    With all that said I disagree with a server wipe or a new server. Royals should do what it's best at and focus on one server. There's other servers that cater to the needs against leech and hp washing and I like to play on those as well.
     
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    Even with a new world, the ''meta'' and how the game is right now would be the case for the new world sooner or later aswell. I don't really see the point of a new world (nevermind wiping the existing server) besides that very short-term fresh experience. I do think PQs should be made more appealing but that's an issue that needs to be solved on the current server, not by a reset when there simply is no leech services at all. I'm a fairly new player and I like the server, despite being the ''I don't want to get leeched'' kind of a person.
     
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    Why so many ppl wanna a second world ? we got lots of map empty here !!! When u walk in to a map , there is endless empty , cant met a single person to say hello ! Y guys know how sad this is ??!!!
     
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    new world, who dis?
     
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