Should I restart this partially washed NL?

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    Hi all,

    Im tired of leeching this. Made this back when HP washing was essential.

    Is it salvageable or should I just make a new character? I have 400k NX saved from voting. Thats 130 APR.

    I've gotten so lost with MP and HP washing... I don't remember if I MP washed as well. My mind is mangled from calculating all of this and I realize I just want to lvl up and go bossing.

    If someone could kindly advise as to whether I should salvage it or just start over. Not sure what salvaging it looks like at the moment... Just removing all my INT and adding back to LUK? Then later getting more APRs to remove from INT and add to HP?

    Thanks in advance.

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    Hey, If I were you I would probably put all fresh AP into MP as long as you have a lot of base INT so it will let you HP wash for a longer time while playing 'normal way'. But you need some more APR for that of course
     
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    If you want to just go back to playing normally without washing, I would say start over. You'd need 139 APRs to reset your INT back into LUK and it's just not worth it.

    If you want to continue washing, I'd argue that you should continue leeching to at least level 120 given how deep you're in with the INT. This process will consume well over 500 APRs overall so you really need to be prepared if you want to go down this road. The more APRs you're willing to use, the better the results.

    If you decide to keep washing
    I'll assume you don't want to put any more AP into INT

    All (or as much as possible given your budget) of your Fresh AP should go towards one of these:
    (1) Fresh AP into HP AND use APR to do -MP +LUK >> To build HP from MP
    (2) Fresh AP into MP AND use APR to do -MP +LUK >> To build MP

    Notes:
    > (1) is more important than (2).
    > You can only do (1) as long as you have the extra MP to do it. So the idea is to do (1) as long as you have the extra MP for it and (2) when you don't.
    > If you're on a budget, do (2) less often. Instead, put your fresh AP directly into LUK when you can't do (1). Doing this means using fewer APRs but having less MP to build HP.
    > You can reset your INT to LUK (APR to do -INT +LUK x 139 times) anytime after you're done leeching. Also, stop doing (2) after you reset because it won't work well.
     
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    Makes sense, thanks for the detailed answer.

    Is there no way I cans imply reset the 143 INT into LUK, then reset HP>MP later? or will I have essentially spend 143 APRs for no HP gain?
     
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    First of all, I need to correct my earlier post since I just noticed your base INT is 143, not 180. (because 37 of your INT came from equips) So you'd need 139 APRs to reset the INT, not 176. Now to answer your question...
    Based on a quick compare against one of my crappy characters, you probably have approximately 360 more MP than an unwashed assassin of your level. That could be used to gain you an average of 660 HP. (360/12 = 30 APRs to use on fresh AP, 30 APRs x 22 HP on average = 660 HP) So if you stop right now, you'll use up 139 APRs to reset your INT + 30 APRs to wash. 169 APRs to gain 660 HP is a HORRIBLE exchange.

    For washing to be relatively cost-effective, you need to do it over a lot of levels because...
    (A) You gain additional MP based on your overall INT (180 in your case) whenever you level up.
    (B) You gain additional MP based on your base INT (143 in your case) whenever you MP wash. (MP wash is (2) from my earlier post)

    So the longer you stick with it, the more HP you gain per APR used. Stopping now is a huge waste of money. Your best options are to lean into it further or restart.
     
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    Thanks Duck, you're the man.

    Do you know how I can figure out my HP levels without washing? IE, can I do Zak at 120/130/140 non-washed NL?
     
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    Here is my HP/MP from 2 crappy NLs. Neither one is washed. Top is level 135 and bottom is level 120. Both of them completed Olaf 4 and it looks like the top one did 1 part of the Spring of Youth quest while the bottom one did none. Both have crappy gear.

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    Here are some useful guides:

    Gaining HP:
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/ways-to-gain-hp.224740/
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/water-from-the-spring-of-youth.124038/
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/an-adventurers-assignment-questline-guide-olaf.218626/
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/com...ir-of-life-reuel-hp-quest-guide-lv120.178648/

    Check Recommended HP:
    https://royals.ms/forum/threads/zancks-bossing-guide.196246/
     

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