Sky Ski vs Pinaka/Dragon faltizan

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    Hey guys, I have decided to make a dark knight and just reached 4th job today. I also purchased a 130att/17 str Pinaka for 900m.
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    Currently, there is a sky ski in the market with 115att/16str for about 1.1b I believe

    My current stats are as followed:
    (These are stats with the 130att/17str pinaka equipped)

    Lvl 120 Dark Knight
    Str: 675 = (584+91)
    Dex: 109 = (30+79)
    Attack: 1811 - 4877


    Besides the pinaka, my only other source of att is from my 10 attack gloves. I do plan on getting a cape eventually but I don't imagine getting one higher than 6-7 att, and boots are out of the question currently.

    With that said, my sources of attack currently are:

    130
    (pinaka) + 10(gloves) + 6-7(potential cape) + 12(warrior elixir)

    My questions are:

    1. Did I buy that pinaka for a decent price or did I overpay?


    2. Is someone able to do some calculations for me to tell me whether the 115/16 sky ski is able to out dps the pinaka?

    3. What stats would a sky ski need for it to be better than the pinaka?

    Thanks in advance
     
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    1. idk pinaka prices

    2. No, with the set up you listed, the sky ski will not out-dps the pinaka
    Sky ski = normal[6] attack speed. with booster = fast[4]
    Pinaka = slow[7] attack speed. with booster = fast[5]

    Assuming you are using Crusher:
    Sky ski: fast[4] weapon it takes 0.93 seconds to use 1 Crusher
    Pinaka: fast[5] weapon it takes 0.99 seconds to use 1 Crusher

    So,
    Sky ski is doing 64.516 Crushers per minute
    Pinaka is doing 60.606 Crushers per minute

    Sky ski is doing 3.91 more Crushers per minute than the Pinaka, a 6.452% difference

    This means your total attack with Pinaka needs to be +6.452% higher than total attack with Ski

    Your total attack with Pinaka = 130+10+7+12 = 159 total attack
    Your total attack with Ski = 115+10+7+12 = 144 total attack

    159/144 translates to: 10.417% > 6.452%, so Pinaka has enough attack to outdps ski
    You have a +3.97% Damage advantage over the 115 ski


    Your total attack with Pinaka = 130+10+7+100 = 247
    Your total attack with Ski = 115+10+7+100 = 232
    247/232 translates to: +6.466% > 6.452%, , so Pinaka has enough attack to outdps ski
    With Onyx Apple, you have a +0.01% Damage advantage over the 115 ski, advantage is much smaller



    3. 1 more attack [if onyx appled]. seriously. but it doesn't have to come from the ski, it can come from ANY equip

    Example if you replace your 10att glove with 11att,
    Your total attack with Pinaka = 130+11+7+100 = 248
    Your total attack with Ski = 115+11+7+100 = 233
    248/ 233 translates to: +6.438% < +6.452%, so Pinaka will lose to ski (Ski has +0.01% Damage advantage)
    With Onyx Apple, you now have a -0.01% Damage disadvantage over the 115 ski, your advantage is gone


    Hope this helps. let me know if you have any questions
     
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    Thank you very much for taking the time to do these calculations for me!

    Realistically, I will most likely be onyx appled while bossing, so that would make the ski better for sure, since i do plan to upgrade my gloves and cape eventually.

    Thank you for answering my questions and making this clear to me!
     
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    Price seems OK for 130wa pinaka.
    This can last you a long time while u work on your cape and boots...

    i used to be using a 129 pinaka > 124 ski
    Ski will outshine pinaka when you start bossing (>135)
    For training, get the highest pinaka/faltizan, also get the speed pill from ludi. it really helps in the speed!
     
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    Hey Im curently level 141 and just recently purchased a 9att cape. I havent gotten any boots yet though. Im searching FM everyday for sky skis but i never see any over 117 att
     
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    118+ sky ski's are usually 2b+, so you will not find them in FM stores
     

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