Suggestion: New source, new world? talk about Bera

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    After the new source arrived and a lot of the server's functions were disabled, I was trying out other servers to kill some time. To be honest, what was appealing about other servers was that they were new and I could race to the top with everyone else. That being said most of those servers (v62/v83) had too much drama, shitty rates, unstable server, unstable everything, a lot of PQs or quests not functioning, etc. Point is, if or when Royals is fully operational, have you guys considered making a new server or a second world (ex. Scania and Bera)? I know its not easy to make a new world, its basically making a new server, but if the code is there, at least you can like copy paste it and you would have 2 running servers.

    Ok, so why 2 servers instead of just 1? "We have had this server working for years and people still enjoy it"
    Yes people so still enjoy it, but personally I dont feel the motivation to really play this server other than quench my nostalgia thirst here and there and quit. No real reason to be competitive when :
    1) everything has been done
    2) people have 50b+ worth of funding, and compared to that most of my friends (me included) feel minuscule
    3) there is no way new players could ever think about competing with old players
    4) those who missed events couldn't get those exclusive items that can be end game in most instances (thanksgiving hat, red socks, etc.)

    "If you want a new server, just go to gtop and look for something that isnt Royals"
    I would like to stay in Royals for a couple of thing:
    1) these (imo) are the best rates any server has to offer. The perfect formula
    2) Royals already has good rep, and that can go a LONG way. Bring a lot of players to a fresh server, promote competition, promote party questing, etc. No dead server at launch that has 30 online at best
    3) When the code is fixed that will mean that Bera would have everything working as well. Pretty depressing to be in a new server and have every quest not working, having to rollback many times, bugs everywhere, etc. Some of the other servers havent put in as much work as Royals has (personal opinion), and i rather play a new Royals > a new random server...any day.

    Sure, some people want the easy life and buy leech till 130+, buy all there gear scrolled already, etc. These people would still get on the main server (Scania). But a lot of the people I met when I was roaming the other servers said they wouldnt play Royals cause their is no point (no competition, no race, everything has been done already). Thats when Bera would come along and attract those who want a fresh start instead of falling behind players with 3-4 years of exp.
    PS. I also saw some old Royals players that were trying new servers. Maybe they want a fresh start too?

    TLDR: New Source, New world, new chances, more competition. A fresh start with everyone fighting to be the top again :) . Give a fighting chance to those who joined recently. Think about it!

    Edit: this post is a work in progress, if it gets more attention or suggestions post'em down so staff can see. I know it can take months to actually make a new server/world, but if the idea is there, maybe the possibility is there. Dont let the dream die just because its far from becoming reality.
     
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    I liked it, and I totally agree with the arguments.
     
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    Totally agreed. That is the whole reason of having a new server, to have a "fair" start.
    I feel you, I took the effort to train my BM as a first character, no funding no nothing, all the way from lv1 to 120. On the other hand, I could see my friend getting his BM from lv1 to 120 in maybe a few weeks, or even days, just because he owns a BS, to leech himself, avoiding all the hardship.

    The idea of a new server is not to accommodate the players.
     
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    I'd personally love to see this happen! I get where your coming from homie but in the state were in right now man id wait untill after they get their self together. Its like asking a burdened person a favor ~f1
     
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    I know. Thats why i said to take it into consideration after the new source gets completed/fixed/etc. xD . I know they are trying to tend to their loyal audience and i think thats the right idea.
    Now, after that is all settled they can look at this idea for a future project
     
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    If and when everything is fixed, this could be a great idea. Can definitely see it bringing back alot of players.
     
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    I totally agree with this idea I hope it becomes a reality.
    The second server would only need 5 channels to get started.
    Maybe it could borrow them from the Scania server :p

    Obviously all of this after they fix the current problems.
     
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    Well, that's part of the fun of being around before others. I started on Royals a year or two before this account while in College, but no one I knew played. I came back, made a new account, and started new with friends. Sure, I can't get some of the old event items, but even if it's a new server, there's no reason to think that the new server should get these items.

    The only way I see this as reasonable is make it a race of sorts. Start on a certain day, see how far you get on a COMPLETELY fresh world (everyone starts same day), and see who gets the farthest in 1 month, 2 months, 6 months, something. Adding a second world with no resets would just divide MapleRoyals. We need as many people in one world as possible, sure, some training spots get crowded, but towns are empty. It's part of the game that people compete for spots, and it sucks, but people earned that "50b", and the old event items, you either have to step up and compete, or accept it. I see no reason to cripple the server.

    Edit: I personally, would love to see the game up and running completely (still missing the CS, shops, and scrolling). Additionally, I would LOVE to see player shops, not auto-mushroom-shop-things. The ones where you actually stand there. Means spot turn over in the FM is a bit faster, and with the ability to open multiple clients, it would be VERY easy to have an account for merching. Had one in GMS, with a guild full of mostly level 16 pirates with dash, dominating the FM in Broa (to a point, a lot of FM guilds above us used hacks), but we could barter, buy items, scroll, do everything on one character and trade the items to the characters that needed it. It was a nice separation. No one ever bugged me while training because I had an item in my shop, they could leave a message, and I would see it on a different character in the shop (messages now are not easy to see, if at all)
     
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    I don't think there is enough people. Your argument of some people have 50+b in funding. I started less than a year ago and I made a bishop and sold lots of leech and worked hard and in less than 6 months. I became one of those people with 50+b in funding. However, there are still many players above me, but my point is. Everyone can get somewhere if they put their mind to it.
     
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    I agree with this. Also you get terrible diminishing returns on gear so it's easy to get great gear that is only slightly worse than the very best out there. Also take in consideration that gear is usually sold for less than what it costs on average to scroll it yourself.

    The only thing that seems neat would be some sort of "ladder" world where there's some set amount of time and stuff would get wiped every so often, otherwise you're just going to end up with the same perceived problem after a short amount of time anyways
     
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    Yeah I think it would be nice to have a clean server once new source is completely fixed. New economy, etc. would be good
     
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    The reason I really like this server is because they don't do wipes. I can take breaks of up to months at a time to focus on life things. When I have free time again, it's really nice to see that nothing has changed with my character or account. I think many players would agree that a wipe is a bad idea. It sucks seeing all of the hard work you put in just be deleted one day.
     
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    Let me start of with saying i don't think a new server will do any good, and only provides temporary solutions.

    1) everything has been done

    This is a problem every server will hit in time, even your 'new' one. give it one month and new players would already be fallen far behind on the no life grinders with no way to catch up.
    It might be fun for those that join from the start and race to beat something as first. after that is done your back at the same point your now. I seen people grind and it can go a lot quicker then some might think witch means
    that those 'first zak kill' etc will most likely be achieved a lot quicker then some realize.

    2) people have 50b+ worth of funding, and compared to that most of my friends (me included) feel minuscule

    Again a problem a new server will face as well. Some people have hours to spend on grinding, others are really good at playing the market and some are just plain up lucky.
    If i see how much i make on just random loot its pretty save to say that within a month there is enough money flowing around that there are already a hand full of people clearly on top money wise.
    Besides that i actually think u need those players, they are the once risking money on scrolling those pieces of gear others will wear later on.
    As in the real world there is difference between the money people have, and just part of economics.

    3) there is no way new players could ever think about competing with old players
    This one i don't agree with at all. As i mention before just grinding and selling the random loot brings in a decent amount of money. I have been playing for a few months on and off and am currently at around 2B.
    This money would allow me to start investing in the market or gear itself. Both of which will bring me a step closer to those old players. You can't expect to be at the same level as someone who player 2 years after a few months.
    But in time everyone can get there and compete with them.

    4) those who missed events couldn't get those exclusive items that can be end game in most instances (thanksgiving hat, red socks, etc.)
    I don't get this one. Those events are bound to dates (Thanksgiving, Xmas, valentines day, etc.) having a new server doesn't mean u suddenly get to play all these events again. Not until its one of those dates again.
    And when that is the case the main server will have that same event as well.

    In the end i feel like all you do is spread the player base over multiple server, just so u can play in a clean economy (that is wat it seems to boil down to) that will at most last a couple of months.
    After that the server will have its high levels and low levels again, its rich and poor players and your back at the same state as the current server. The only way to combat this is be indeed having resets every now and then, but no one likes losing its progress, at least i don't.

    That said i don't even think there is anything wrong with the current server. Players that have been playing for ages are expected to have higher levels and more money then me.
    This is something every single game that has levels or currency has and in my opinion is nothing wrong with. When you spend enough time playing the game and enjoying yourself you will eventually get the levels and money
    and someday be part of those top players. And i get that some might wanted to try and be the first to beat Zak or something, but by creating new servers your only temporarily getting rid of those problems.

    Though this is only my opinion on this matter.
     
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    Isn't NX linked to the account, not the world servers?

    If a new world were to be implemented and cash shop were working, then not everyone is on the same playing field anymore as the discrepancy between who were able to hoard the most NX and those who couldn't (Think about the players who weren't able to vote at all due to registration being unavailable too) becomes obvious.
     
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    Don't think this will ever come. Maintaining (and now fixing LUL) one world is already tough enough for them. Adding a new one would only means more problems.

    Besides, I've yet to hear an old school MS with more than one world.
     
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    I'm personally a fan of a new world, but I don't really agree with most reasons you state.

    Let's take a look.

    1.

    This is a very selfish reason to start a new world. Only a few people would be achieving those 'first time to do it' feelings, and what do we do after that? A new world again so other people can feel it too? I suggest, especially in Maplestory to focus on your own achievements rather then looking at players who started at day 1.

    2-3-4.

    Now... I'm going to start with the competing with old players thing. They've experienced more events and played for longer. This is how any MMO works. Play for longer and earn more gear, money and event items. And talking about event items specifically, most items return after a year (Thanksgiving / Christmas/Halloween events). So I don't really see the issue there. If you play for longer in an MMO, means you've put more time into it usually, and therefore you get an advantage over new players. If you don't like this concept MMO might not be the genre you're looking for.

    Inflation

    You do have a point with the meso problem. Inflation has always been a big issue in Maplestory. I think a new world could start off with better meso sinks to prevent inflation from happening too quickly.

    My own reasons

    How I see a new world working out is it having USP's (Unique Selling Points) that makes it different from the world we currently have. For example, the new world could have better ways to prevent leech, and as I stated earlier, meso sinks from the start etc. There are alot of possibilities that could make the new world a great addition, while not abandoning the current one.


    All in all, a new world has alot of potential. But its not worth it if you just copy the old one. All you do with that is upset long time players and let the old world die slowly. You might as well wipe in that scenario.
     
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    TOTALLY AGREE
     
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    so... New World hype ??
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    P/s: great suggestion and I cant wait to join the new world
     
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    If it was 1x (max 2x exp rate), max 1x drop, multiclienting disabled and enforced with a ban, and some kind of nerf to both nx and gach then I would consider a new world as it would be vastly different to what we already have, there is zero point to start a similar second world at all.

    If you slap on 4x like we already have with incredibly boosted equip drop, the same will repeat as in the past. People will get tons of bils with ease, and 4th for farming with ease in a matter of week, two or three.
    If you take a look at legends which is a competing server at 2x they are also known as royals aka leechstory due to multiclients. It truly ruins the feel of servers aside from the people that just want high level to boss.

    My ideal scenario is that a second world would be strict 1x rates with limited gach and way less nx on vote. Zero multiclienting as it only promotes leeching/afking vs partying & the community maple is all about.
    I also highly dislike 4th jobs due to mages and truly believe 3rd jobs is superior as the end goal, even though I love sairs. But this is a very unpopular opinion around here I would imagine.
     
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