The main source of problems : https://royals.ms/forum/threads/update-86-27-08-23.222546/ The second layer verification for Legendary Spirit Skill is released from 27-08-23 I know this new system can safe some ppl who do not notice the option to agree using WS in first verification, but there are also many problem happened after this new system released The reasons why I want to feedback : 1. That is some annoying for me, after this second layer verification for Legendary Spirit Skill is released, I total scrolled at least 200+WS, every time when I scroll to use WS, I need to click second time, I am so scared if I suddenly shake, sneeze, or my mouse malfunctions, then accidentally hit No, this item which I am scrolled will become to be a trash. And I am selling the Guaranteed WS Service, if I failed by the second layer verification for Legendary Spirit Skill, how do I compensate my customers? Everyone can see the photos below, the "YES" is very very very closed to "No", I repeat three times because it is very important, they almost close enough to stick together. Please imagine that you suddenly shook today and you hit No by mistake, you will want to die. 2. There are two posts that have problems due to this second layer verification for Legendary Spirit Skill, and the problem still cannot be solved https://royals.ms/forum/threads/legendary-spirit-skill-didnt-use-my-ws.222561/ https://royals.ms/forum/threads/legendary-spirit-didnt-work.223885/ 3. My friend just told me the thing that I am worried I referred just now, her hand shook, and then her dagger was not worth anymore My conclusion : To sum up, my friend's sad situation, and my experience with 200+ scrolling process, after this second layer verification for Legendary Spirit Skill released about 1 month, I think this second layer verification for Legendary Spirit Skill is unnecessary and redundant 1. The scrolling process is too cumbersome 2. "Yes" and "No" too close 3. When people scrolling, they should notice if there is a red check mark in the box by themselves, red is already a very eye-catching color ! I wish or how to fix it : Just remove it, please, when ppl scrolling, they should be responsible for their own actions, instead of using the excuse of not noticing ; It is like the Mapleroyals rules, when you accidentally make Vote Abuse today, yon can not use the excuse that you have not read the rules carefully
I dont agree with this suggestion. In my eyes the 2nd verification is a good thing and saves people from using white scrols as a accident which i heard happend allot.
I think the best solution would be to have choosing no cancel the scrolling entirely, and if one wanted to scroll without ws they'd need to deselect the checkbox and then scroll
With the old system, a player might accidentally consume a single white scroll. With the new system, a player might accidentally brick an item that took hundreds of hours to farm. Accidentally using a white scroll with the old system is an ouch but it's not a big deal. Bring back the old system.
Pro tip: press your “Y” key on the “yes/no” screen and it will select “yes” for you. Then you don’t need to worry about shaking or sneezing. Allowing cancel to cancel the entire scrolling process might be an idea. However I also understand the point of: when you drag a scroll and click it on an item, NOT, using a white scroll, the second you click, the scroll goes through. So once you’ve dragged the scroll over and clicked, you’ve essentially committed to using the scroll. idk if I explained that well.
Voting for removal and reversal/replacement of the botched items. The change was enough to trip up seasoned users of LS so enough with blaming them for not using an unfamiliar system correctly. The sad irony is people use LS and sit through the unnecessary melodramatic animation because we wanted to eliminate the misclick/fat fingering potential. Some of us are avoiding LS entirely: that's part of the reason why there are fewer reports of screwed up items now. It also goes without saying that dcing while at the prompt potentially ruining your item permanently (especially when one of my characters is getting bizarre dcs for no reason...) is poor design.
I think instead of completely removing the current implementation, it should be changed to the following: If a player has at least 1 white scroll in their inventory, upon entering the Legendary Spirit interface, a blue box pop-up appears and warns the user that white scroll use is enabled. This message will only appear once each time the Legendary Spirit Interface is opened (does not appear after scroll attempts, but will re-appear if ws is still in your inventory and you re-open the interface.) This will not annoy those who don't want to see a dialogue after each scroll attempt, and it will help the clumsy (like me) say 'oh shit' and run to hide their ws in storage. The click-and-drag scrolling through the equipment UI should be changed so that the dialogue box there has a Yes, No, Cancel spread of options (buttons far apart to avoid misclicks). Allowing users to cancel the scrolling process is beneficial in my opinion, even if one can argue that by dragging the scroll they've already made the decision to scroll. There's nothing wrong with a system being overly forgiving and allowing a player to step back and collect their thoughts. Any button press like ESC, Enter, Y, N, the client closes, etc. should default to Cancel. This leaves no room for ambiguity, I hope. Yes - Scroll attempt goes through and a WS is consumed. No - Scroll attempt goes through, and no WS is consumed. Cancel - Nothing happens, the attempt does not go through.
I think the devs are not able to do major UI changes only small tweaks because the client code is basically a binary executable (source code not available) and they do some crazy hex editing to make their small tweaks work. I believe this is one of the main reasons ws UI has not been improved despite many complaints over the years. The popup warning seems doable though.
I like the proposal. Just curious what the point of having the “use white scroll” box is, if you end up making your selection from “yes” “no” and “cancel”. You wouldn’t need a warning screen because it serves no purpose.
I suppose, but most of what I mentioned is not overly complicated or different from what was already tested previously and what is in the game now. I did not mention any 'major' UI change other than perhaps changing the functionality of ESC/Y/N. Just a blue pop up inside Legendary Spirit and slightly adjusting the already existing pop-up when scrolling through the equip UI. Iirc from my time on staff Yeehaw had a prototype for the latter, but I could be misremembering. Either way, I don't enjoy these discussions as this is pointless for us to debate or discuss without word from a developer themselves. At any rate, I think it can be improved to a point where we don't need to discuss it anymore if what I proposed is implemented, even without the button behavior change, as stopping a scrolling attempt when you already made the decision to scroll is more of a luxury. I think you misunderstood my post. There are two ways to scroll 1. Legendary Spirit 2. No Legendary Spirit - Click and drag the scroll on to a piece of equipment in your equipment window. For Legendary Spirit, if you have a ws in your inventory, the proposed change is just that upon opening up Legendary Spirit, a blue pop-up warning box appears as depicted once, as some people may move quick and be blind to the checked-by-default use white scroll box. There is no "yes- no-cancel" interface here. For click and drag to equipment window, the already existing pop up that appears will be modified, as I proposed.
