I honestly do believe owl of minerva should be removed to buy in FM. I'm perfectly fine with people buying in Cash shop, but just how easy it is to get in game in my opinion ridiculous. One of my most fondest memories in game is to go through the fms and memorize prices. I remember watching and doing all the videos of Road to 10b Merching series on youtube and being quite fond of them. I do believe this would open a whole new world into the game. I also understand the opposite of people using owls to get a item and leave. But if we just think of nostalgic we all went through fms to search items and stuff, finding them hidden gems that no one has bought. I also do understand the guilds that have their own channels in fm 1 that would completly dislike this idea. What are your thoughts.
wat owls already sink so many of my mesos. If it's bought from Cash Shop, people can just buy them for mesos from other players like APRs. If you want the nostalgic feeling of going through fm and searching through things... you can... Just don't buy and use owls. People aren't owling all the time to find these hidden gems, you can still find them by browsing FM. Edit: It's also a healthy meso sink for the game to counter inflation.
I understand who disagrees its a lot easier to get things. It's a healthy mesos sink. However like I said back in the day owls never were bought by albert ( if thats the npc name I think F6) You actually had to find items and find good prices. People were spamming a lot in fms to sell items for cheaper. Owls are very useful I get it. Its just a open thought wanted your feedback. I just feel like we all get caught up in doings things easy we forget where we came from. If you tell me you never spent the time in fm using 9' @ to sell items that's a lie. Maybe it could bring the game a little lively. Where you actually have to talk to people a lot more. But its just wanted my share my train of thought.
There is nothing positive to come from removing this. You're trying to delete a popular money sink and time saver for your own entertainment.
if you want to browse the FM without using owl service go ahead then , what makes you unable to do so? it's not a must really bad idea. 0/10
I don't think I twisted your words. The root of why you suggested this change was because of your own nostalgia. I didn't see any point showing how this would improve the server.
Op wants more people spamming chat in fm. If he alone not use owl, then only him will be in fm which defeats the purpose. If everyone is there then will be a difference. im not taking a stand, just explain.
I'm half for and half against this idea. Reason being: - I see owls as being one of the main factors for boss spoils dropping hard in price. People (myself included) owl something like MW20 or Gen30 and then undercut the cheapest one by X amount. Sometimes these undercuts can be really big and cause the overall price to drop down significantly. Look at Gen30, dropping from 1.8b all the way down to a bit above 400m. Maybe by removing owls, it would play a factor in preventing boss prices from dropping significantly and preserve the game economy a little bit. However, this can also create the risk of people blindly pricing them and backfire, who knows. + Owls are a GREAT source of meso sinking, as many others above me have said already. Simply removing them would most definitely cause inflation and less value within our mesos. Also, making them available only in cash shop would make them be treated like APRs in where people buy them for nx and sell them for mesos, as Mr. Kethoe has said earlier. Although it is a big QoL thing for me, I wouldn't necessarily be completely opposed to it being removed, or tweaked. Just my thoughts, I'm sure other people will disagree with what I think, but I'm interested to see what other people have to say about it!
I am against the removal of owls. Note there was a previous feedback thread on this topic but did not gain traction: Increase Price of Owl, Reduce NX Cost of APR (option bundle). There was also a discussion on A MarketPlace for MapleRoyals (see the longer discussion here), which sort of has to do with this in the sense that, with enough effort, there are players willing and motivated to do away with owls in what I believe to be in a more detrimental way (at least from the perspective of those that agree with owl removal.) As someone who primarily makes their income from the FM, I love owls. There is a list of items that I specifically use owls for in hopes of profiting, whether it's a direct resell, crafting, or scrolling. While it doesn't take a galaxy brain to utilize them well, it does take some understanding of the current market and strategizing to make sure you aren't just completely sinking your mesos. Along with owls, I still browse FM when I have the time, especially after a server check. There are tons of hidden gems around and memorizing prices is still incredibly useful; this aspect of the market has not left. The convenience for consumables (weapon attack pots and the like) is also amazing. ----- I wouldn't necessarily blame owls for the drop in boss reward prices. Yea, undercutting is a bitch, and I am not innocent in that, but I think many other factors are at play for those prices that your last statement is more plausible to me (not to an insane degree, though). For example, while not as up-to-date as owls (naturally), how did the price guides (when they were flourishing) affect boss reward prices? Is that something to consider for your point? Despite this, I'm not going to full on disagree with your point here. I would like to add that this concern really begs the question, "Why don't we just remove MW20, Genesis, etc. from owls instead of removing owls altogether?" I'd have to give it some thought (not giving that as a suggestion, just saying it addresses this concern without a complete removal.) ----- Finally, I don't agree for the removal of owls for the reasons in the original post. As someone who was a merch in BB GMS, I would have killed for owls. In fact, everyone would have. Eventually people would write scripts where bots would scrape every FM room in every channel and update a searchable database online (sorry, not trying to give people ideas here, but this is the illegitimate version of the previously mentioned online market place to a higher degree.) I don't really miss the channel 1 FM spamming (I don't think removing owls will bring that back, unless you want to remove chalkboards and smegas too?) "Nostalgia" is not a lens I wish to view this conversation through. I am (slightly) willing to entertain a price increase, but honestly other than "nostalgia" and @lee1 's point of boss drops, what would we specifically hope a price increase achieves?
