This might belong in the VL feedback thread, but I figured that was more about boss mechanics & the meta surrounding VL. These boots feel like they're in a weird spot and don't really fit in with how gear progression works in this game Update 83 changed the level requirement from 180 -> 140 and I didn't notice a change in demand or price at all. It seems the problem lies with the level requirement still. Players prefer lower level weapon attack items for various reasons and it makes sense because the two competing options are level 10 and 50. Which begs the question, why would anyone buy these boots? I think giving VL boots a change to have 0-1 stats (str/dex/int/luk) on them would make more sense from a gear progression standpoint. Ideally only the weapon attack would be able to get a godly roll so that we don't see 6/6/6/6 8wa (idk the wa max, w.e it is) VL boots as that might be a little too much. This would give some incentive to buy these boots and gamble cs on them. They have the potential to be best in slot boots for various classes and have very low supply due to the size requirement for VL teams and the limited amount of runs Maybe this is too op, maybe someone has a better idea for the boots, maybe the are fine the way they are - I would like to see other opinions on it
If there were 13wa Von Leon boots that were cheaper than 13wa FS id buy them in a heartbeat. I think that since these are still kinda new and there aren't many that are finished going around that they still have a premium price tag on them. I personally think they're fine but I am waiting to see more finished boots in circulation or maybe even a higher droprate of them. Even if it dropped lets say 5, thats only a 25% chance that one of them is godly.
Of course you wouldn't see a change in demand... Who wants to wait till level 140 to wear essentially an "FS"? That's 90 level difference between a regular Facestompers. Level 140 makes sense if we're dealing with an end-game weapon but for an armor piece that's tradeable, lv140 is too high still. I think Staff should instead further reduce the levels to either be lv110 to be similar to Element Pierce Earrings or possibly lv90. Afterwards, they can gauge interest. If there's still no interest, then Staff can decide whether or not to add additional stats or make a special scroll for the shoes.
I don't agree, who's in the market for a facestomper, usually chars at the bossing stage of their career 135+. If you make a new char, chances are your washing/leeching it to 135 anyways. That 140 requirement isn't that far fetched. How many people just stay at 200 where this doesn't even affect them. I agree that the original 180 requirement was drastic, but I can see 140 as reasonable.
As far as I know it’s not possible to apply godly roll to specific stats like attack only. It’s what lead us to the Von Leon Soul system to add attack to Von Leon Belts after their godly roll chance. Obviously godly roll chance for attack on a belt would’ve been too op. So what would be possible is a STR/DEX/INT/LUK scroll for VL Shoes. The question is would people give up on potential +5 attack from CSing one slot to add mainstats and cs afterwards?
Well, this might seem off-topic but its relevant to the discussion of VL boots.. It's important to remember that Matt teased Pink Bean, so maybe the final boss is finally on the horizon. In OG maple, Timeless/Reverse Shoes/Gloves were trash since it couldn't compete with FS/BWG. I hope you guys took the time to consider if Reverse/Timeless shoes are going to be straight garbage tier or one of the end-game equips and made a Equipment plan for Royal's future so that you guy's aren't completely thrown off. So take into consideration what you do with the VL boots.
There can be some players who would prefer to have equal attack VL boots over FS/RS but I haven't observed this to be the case. There is a noticeable price gap between clean variants and because of this it would naturally result in the finished product having a lower cost as well These are screenshots (not mine) from before the level changes, but the point still stands due to FS being ~500m around then: Spoiler If individual godly rolls are not possible then I'm not sure this suggestion really plays out. I don't think many would trade a potential +5 attack to add mainstats, it puts an already bad boot at even further disadvantage. I can't think of any simple ways to get the stats on there without complicating the godly roll system
The additional added stats (str/def/luk/int) is actually a pretty solid idea. Idk how people can say anything else is OP when the AUF haven helmet exists , but some added stats to the VL boots would at least make* them more viable for the gamble
Not really an endgame player, so obviously take this comment with a grain of salt, but couldn’t you either just give the shoes: 1: godly roll chance on STR/DEX/LUK/INT and 7 slots. Then add Von Leon Soul System that adds 1WA, 4MAtk OR 2: idk if this one is possible, but godly roll chance on WA, 6 slots, Von Leon Soul Scroll that adds 1/1/1/1 but must be used before the shoe can be scrolled? (In the same way that belt scroll only works when there are 5 slots, can there be a way to make the shoe un-scrollable by anything other than Von Leon soul unless it has less than 6 slots?)
You don’t need to be „endgame“ to send over ideas, don’t worry. Option one would require an „alternate“ von Leon soul as the stats are different from the current one and might make most shoes less valuable being 1/1/1/1 since you have to invest in it to add the attack while currently it has a low chance to be 8 attack 5 slots. option 2 is possible I think but I think you meant the 1/1/1/1 (miracle?) shoe scroll in the last sentence? Personally not really a fan of these kind of special scrolls for tradeable items
This is a fantastic idea and I hope it is implemented into the game post-haste. I perish the thought of thinking anything but, and I hope you do too. (Please do not bother responding to this post, I will not see your answer as I have set the thread to ignore.)
If staff don't want to change the lvl req but actually want to make it better, maybe give these the same instant turnaround that Snowshoes give you by giving VL Shoes the anti slipping effect of Snowshoes. It's a shame this satisfying gameplay isn't part of regular Royals as Snowshoes don't have ATT, but are the only ones with "instant turnaround". You could also give VL Shoe (a chance to) ignore Seduce. Implementing either of these means they'd actually have an upside connected to their high LVL downside. I also agree that a fair chunk of passive HP would be a nice option.
