What are the EXP/hr gain for leech at Skeles & Petris?

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    Hi all, I recently started 1-hitting Skeles using energizers and sold Skeles split leech to various buyers.

    Based on their accounts, I am able to provide them with 31M~32M EXP/hr gain at Skeles. Most reviewed that the leech was fast and would like to buy more from me.

    Up till now, I sold buyers leech at Skeles at 45mil/hr~50mil/hr. I am looking to adjust my prices to match the EXP/hr gain I can provide to the buyers.

    So what are the average EXP/hr gain at Skeles & Petris for split/solo leech? Knowing these information would allow me to price my leech services at a fair price, both for me and the buyers. Can anyone help? Thanks!

    Edit: Up till now, I have achieved highest 36M EXP/hr gain to a lvl 147 buyer with a lvl 120 partner. On average I would correct EXP gain at Skeles to 32M EXP/hr for lvl 110~120s. This is just my own leech selling experience.

    Edit 2: Achieved new high of 37M EXP/hr gain to lvl 132 buyer with lvl 113 partner. All done at normal speed without telecast. Although the lvl 113 partner kept on HSing so I didnt have to waste time to HS.
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    Fellow bishops! We can be as good if not better than Petris! Just know how to do it the right way! Let's make Skeles great again xD
     
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    I think the rate looks about right. Usually those at the 55m-60m (rare) mark offer TC/HS/MW20 and sometimes Haste.
     
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    Those exp gain (~32m experience averagely) looks about right for 50m. I'll pay for extra 5m for every ~2-3m increment. But mw20 and other "utilities" do increase the incentives of buyers to buy leech from you as well.
     
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    I did a survery in game and consolidated the EXP/hr gain at Skeles and Petris as follow:

    EXP/hr (Average) EXP/hr(Good Seller)
    Skeles 28M 31M
    Petris 30~35M 40M


    However, I did another test leeching a lvl 108 Priest and a lvl 130 Night Lord today for 1 hour. The 130 Night Lord claims to have gained 35M EXP.

    I will do more tests in the future to compare the EXP gain.

    For now, I believe that Skeles leech is extremely underrated, but justifiable because there are lots of terrible Skeles seller that don't now how to navigate the map.

    I would also like to point out that I did all my leeches without telecast and without haste. So with telecast/haste, Skeles leech can be potentially better than what I claimed.

    TLDR: I think Skeles leech is extremely underrated, and I would like to help change that xD
     
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    Hi, may I ask why you would consider 32M EXP/hr about right for 50m?

    For Petris leech, the average is 30~35M EXP/hr or 32.5M EXP/hr. And people are willing to pay 70m for that!
     
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    You're not wrong as far as the leech price goes. But skele does have way better drops for you to sell so it kinda even outs in the end when it comes to meso gain.

    Petri should be about 35m EXP averagely or else the leech sellers are not proficient enough in their job. It is mostly about time : exp gain I think. Most of us are adults and can't play 24/7 so we just vote for NX, online to get leech and try to get to bossing level ASAP. Petri is faster than Skele for most of the times due to map layouts, leech sellers' skill and whatnot so it's kinda a given for it to be priced higher even when skele is just a bit slower (though you can save maybe save a couple of hours when combined).
     
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    Oh yes, time is quite important too! Didn't take that into account.

    Although I doubt that 35M EXP/hr is average for petris. Based on my survey both in-game and in forums, 35M EXP/hr is considered very good, and 40M EXP/hr is simply a myth or false. Average for Petris is 30~35M.

    I guess Skeles prices should stay the same until Skeles sellers as a whole can consistenly provide 32M EXP/hr. Right now many Skeles sellers only give ~28M EXP/hr.

    I might make a guide in the future to help my fellow bishops know how to provide better Skele leeches. Right now most bishops don't know what they are doing, as seen by me in-game.
     
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    @Ziying77 , you mind sharing your IGN? I'll buddy you for leech (as a paying customer of course) and see the difference in Skele vs Petri leech I've experienced so far.
     
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    Pmed you :)
     
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    I've spent some time on skeles and i think telecast is not meant for skele map. Map is too short to unlock full potential of tc + u have to climb every ~10s. As 200lvl bish i make ~28m exp for 108lvl buyer, ~32m exp for ~125. Tried leeching my 199nl and got ~3% so thats ~48m exp (its the best i've got, avg is a bit lower)
     
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    I think Your EXP/hr rate is really good for lvl 200! Is that by telecasting or not telecasting?

    I don't do telecast at Skeles, simply because my computer can't, but I also don't think telecasting can improve my EXP/hr rate significantly. Maybe at most 1~2%.

    Also personally for me, my rotation allows me to climb every ~16s instead of ~10s, making Skeles leech less tiring.

    I actually find Skeles leech much more relaxing than Ulu I/II due to the compactness of the Skeles map. (i.e. less time spent teleporting and more time to relax fingers by staying at a spot)
     
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    I don't telecast but i think in perfect conditions it could improve exp/h if done correctly on the bottom platforms. Also it makes me laugh when i see ppl telecasting on the bottom of the map or climbing up the longest rope on the map (the middle one)
     
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    Haha yes, telecasting to the bottom is hilarious.

    But for me I think telecasting on the top(third) platform instead could be better EXP/h. Maybe that's cause we use different rotations xD
     
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    Red line is my main rotation and yellow line is dependant on position of mobs on the top part, using genesis twice in every blue dot. I dont think there is a better non tc rotation (correct me if someone have a better one)
     
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    oooo my rotation is that too. I think more bishops should use this. This is indeed the best one.

    maybe with perfect telecasting one can add one more blue dot on the third level and cast genesis once on each of the two blue dots on the third level. Never tried that but I think the exp increase is minimal.
     

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