What is the purpose of stupid elitism in this server?

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    I've crossed paths with tons of tryhard, drama-obsessed gamers who act like wannabe elite overlords, determined to blacklist anyone they don't approve of. It's downright absurd. My guild, on the other hand, is like a wild, rule-free party. We've hit over 100 members in under a week! We've conquered bosses, raked in mesos like pros, and handed out Zakum helms like candy. We even ran Zakum in under 25 minutes, and not a single level 135 player in sight. We're having a blast! I'll even take in players blacklisted by those drama queens.

    Then there are those players who seem to live in the game, probably haven't seen daylight in months. Seriously, there's no need to sweat it in a 2D mushroom world. The point is to enjoy and have fun. But I've met players who whine about every little thing – "OMG, please CC!" or "OMG, you're toxic!" Come on, folks, it's a 2D game..life can be tough, but this is just pixels and giggles!

    I mean me as a level 12x NL i do more damage than some 135-140 average NL's do and yet i've been ditched from most parties, because people know me as a player who reports hackers and botters, someone even called me a snitch, this is why i don't even hunt hackers and botters anymore, i let them roam for free and destroy this economy just for the heck of it, thanks for the elitism, toxicist and drama- obsessed gamers here. I was called a lowballer for buying halloween candy for 8k ea and selling them for 15k ea. Someone reported me for having 11 WS even though i won them from gachapon. Someone reported me for using poison mist at kerning city ( and eventually they got banned for harassment ). Relax your mentality.

    Mentality of the community. There are many kind people no doubt, this is not regarding them. There are people acting like "there are no new players shut up", "having elitism between old & new players is a needed evil, there is no need to solve that". Also HP Washing completely bones the casual players, and only appeals to elitists. The whole discussion on HP washing is a complete joke, and the people who defend it are pathetic sheep.


    This is what i think of most players here:


    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LqV6-X__Lz0
     
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    Mapleroyals is known for terrible decisions but great execution. So now it is the server where all the fun friend making content is zipped past in the first 12 hours of making a character, and then it becomes grinding cause nobody ever visits PQs anymore. And when you cant take the boring grind anymore and want to do a boss you get pushed towards HP washing cause pre-big-bang and post-big-bang content have not been balanced to fit together. So your character is either something that you put your heart and soul into playing regularly, but you'll hate it cause it is excluded from the high lvl content and community, or its a character you hacked together by skipping all the early content with leeching and orbis etc and all that, so you'll hate it cause it feels like buying a character instead of making it yourself. So yeah, all of that breeds elitism, but it's what royals is and they've made it very clear over a long time that there's no going back on decisions, so you either suck it up/complain on the forums once in a while or you leave
     
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    I totally get where you're coming from. Mapleroyals can be a bit of a mixed bag, with its pros and cons. It's true that the server's fast-paced progression and the lack of PQs can make it feel like a grindfest at times. And the issue with HP washing, especially when it comes to balancing pre and post-Big Bang content, can be frustrating. I do find pre BB patch way more balanced than Royals, because nobody cared what class or level you are as long as you can hit the boss. Community blacklist wasn't even a thing in pre bb patch.

    You highlighted a significant problem with the server, which is the divide between players who put in a lot of effort and those who choose to skip early content. Both groups can feel somewhat alienated, and that does contribute to elitism.

    It's a shame that some aspects of the community can get toxic, but it's good to see that there are players like us who just want to enjoy the game and have fun. While we can't change the server's decisions, we can try to make the most out of our gaming experience


    But i wrote a bit deeper issues than just this, it's not about content, it's about how this community rolls and acts towards certain players. Some players get blacklisted for lowballing and "shop scam" for example putting 56 att RC with 0 slots for 300-500m in shop. People cry about anything. I find it very hilarious that i got few players banned 6-7 months ago and i still get reminded of it from certain individuals about it. You play a good citizen of Royals yet it's never enough for some players.
     
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    I've been playing the game for 2 years and never have I ever:

    • Fought Zakum, Krex, or any boss harder than Leviathan or female boss
    • Washed any characters
    • Used any cs or ws
    • Joined a PQ other than KPQ, HPQ, LPQ, or event PQs
    And I'm still having a blast playing mostly solo doing dumb challenges. Endgame seems kinda tedious so I just skip it and manage to dodge most of the drama and other things people seem to hate. Eventually I'll run out of stuff to do but then I'll take a break and come back when they release Jett or someone comes up with another non-standard way to play.
     
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    Kudos to you! You have to try OPQ though, it's pretty fun!

    Yeah most of my guildies are not elitists either, we don't care about the end game content either. But there are some guilds that are way too elitists for their own good.

    Oh sh!t ~f6. I swear i've been busy too lately, i got another video coming this weekend of some hackers i caught >.< please don't ban me or something i will stop making these dumb threads -.-'
     
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    Which one of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?
    A) The 2D mushroom world is the only place where people can have fun.
    B) People should always prioritize enjoyment over other considerations in any situation.
    C) The player is not stressed or anxious about the 2D mushroom world.
    D) There are no serious consequences or risks associated with activities in the 2D mushroom world.
    E) Everyone in the 2D mushroom world has the same preferences and desires regarding enjoyment.

    @Sen
     
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    Well this is rich, coming from a guy with a forum name 'grindingtothelimits'. Guess your limit's kinda... Limited huh :chillin:
     
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    "i do more damage" vs "stupid elitism" vs "tryhard, wannabe elite overlords" vs "Joined:May 21, 2023" vs "12x NL i do more damage than some 135-140 average NL" vs "Relax your mentality" vs "complete joke" vs "pathetic sheep"
    drama-obsessed indeed. yeah i am talking about me.
     
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    give me mercy i was drunk when i wrote this ~f4
     
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    God I have some great lawyer jokes to tell you in private later.
     
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    I suggest switching to the devil's lettuce :pepeboba:
     
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    Does it have alcohol? ~f13
     
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    pre big bang maplestory is an unbalanced, poorly developed mmorpg with unintentional mechanics but we put up with it because of nostalgia.
     
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    It wasn't that unbalanced. In my opinion, the issue of imbalance is more prevalent among the royals. There's a problem with muling and leeching here, which isn't really acknowledged as an issue. I don't quite understand why you'd call it nostalgia, but hey, everyone has their own perspective. Back in 2006, nobody really cared whether you were a level 90 crossbow user or a level 150 hermit. We had 20-30 players running bosses, and nobody paid much attention to your class or level, as long as you could contribute. The main imbalance before the Big Bang patch was the 1x experience rates, but that's what made MapleStory great in the first place. That's probably where elitism started, as being level 50+ already made you a pro, and level 90+ was considered elite. Royals doesn't have the same issue with experience rates since everyone seems to level up quickly. However, Royals does struggle with players disliking and discriminating against others, to the point where most players doing endgame content don't want others to join for various reasons like HP washing, damage range, being blacklisted for dumb useless reasons, or having a new character. I haven't personally seen any Ice/Lightning mages participating in boss fights, but I still welcome them to my party because why not? There's no need for drama if it takes a few more minutes to complete Zakum. There's too much elitism and a focus on optimization in this server, with guides even specifying which classes are suitable for bossing and which are considered useless, something that wasn't really a thing back then. There's much more to it really but i am way too drunk right now to even discuss about this LOL
     
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    Late to the party but, this doesn't happen. Banning hackers and botters is universally a good thing. The only people that would call you a snitch are hackers themselves. :donke:
     
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