What should I do from here? (Hp washing)

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    Here are my stats
    Job: Thief
    Lv: 87
    HP: 2832
    MP: 4088

    Base Int: 200
    Int gear: 110
    MW: +20
    Total int: 330

    Goal: 12k~ hp @155
    Also I want to reset my int and not wear int gear as low of a level as I can

    Still trying to wrap my head around how it works. I could use some brilliant minds to help me out and help me learn more about this
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    I did some math, does it make sense? this is assuming i dont gain any hp from my 4th job adv because i dont know what it is
    a. 45 x 30 = 1350 ([available ap] x [30 mp]) note: from adding 1 AP into mp gaining 30mp

    b. 1350+4088 = 5438 ([from "a."[ + [current MP])

    c. 5438 + 1005 = 6443 ([current mp if "a." & "b." is done] + MP gain from leveling 87->155 with 4 base int)

    d. 6443 - 2318 = 4125 (Total MP - Min MP [(14 x Level)+148] )

    4125 mp to work with @ lv 155

    HP:
    70 AP + (67 x 5)= 405 AP total till 155

    e. 2832 + (405 x 20) = 10932 Note: current hp x (Total AP till 155 x min hp gain per fresh ap reset)

    d. 10932 + 1340 = 12272 Note: (e. x [Min gain hp per lv {67 x 20}])

    Bringing these together

    405 AP x 12mp = 4860 mp used

    I need 4860 MP but I only have 4125 Mp to spare

    So im assuming that I want to wear my int gear and keep my base int for a little longer
     
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    a. I can't figure out why you're saying you have 45 available AP, but regardless, putting fresh AP into MP has a net MP gain of (Base Int)/10 - 1 for every fresh AP in MP for thieves. So with (200/10) - 1, your actual MP gain per fresh AP in MP is actually 19. Putting fresh AP into MP is called MP washing and you actually don't need to MP wash, so don't put your fresh AP in MP unless you want bonus MP for whatever reason. :p

    b. Thieves get 4 HP more per wash using fresh level up AP instead of AP Reset AP, for a fresh level up AP 22 HP average instead of the AP Reset AP 18 HP average. Put all 115 of your fresh AP into HP, right now. Later you'll use AP Resets to -MP +LUK/DEX all those 115 AP. So we take 115*22=2530 HP gained from all 115 fresh level up AP in HP. Add this with your HP before (2832). 2530+2832=5362. Your real HP for level 87 is therefore 5362 HP. Since you need to AP Reset those 115 AP by doing -MP +LUK/DEX, we have to find your real MP for level 87 too. It costs 12 MP when you use an AP Reset to -MP. So 115*12=1380. You lose 1380 MP from reallocating your 115 AP you put into HP back in your main stats. So we deduct this from your MP before. 4088-1380=2708. Your real MP for level 87 is therefore 2708 MP.

    TLDR Put all 115 of your fresh level up AP in HP right now. Your actual HP and MP for level 87 is 5362 HP and 2708 MP, and this is what I input in my calculator below.

    c. On average, you get 15 MP per level up, with 4 base int. 155-87=68. 68*15=1020. 1020 MP gained from level 87 to level 155, not 1005.

    d. With 200 base int, Maple Warrior 20, and 110 in int gear, you have 330 total int, so you gain 33 MP per level up in addition to the 15 MP you get per level up naturally. This is a total of 48 MP per level up. I assumed you'll reset base int and stop equipping int gear at level 135. 135-87=48. 48 level ups with 48 MP gained per level up. 48*48=2304 MP gained total. Since the level for your 12k HP goal is 155, there are 20 more level ups you do without base int, Maple Warrior 20, or int gear. You still get the natural MP gain per level up, of course. 20*15=300. Also you get 175 MP from doing fourth job advancement. So we take your real MP for your current level and add this all up. 2708+2304+300+175=5487. 5487 MP total at level 155. 2318 minimum MP at level 155 like you said. 5487-2318=3169. 3169 washable MP.

    HP:
    115 fresh AP now, 68 level ups between level 87 to level 155. 68*5=340. 115+340=455. 455 fresh level up AP available.

    e. It's better to use the average HP gain per HP wash, which is 22 with fresh level up AP. As we said before, your real HP at level 87 is 5362. Average HP gain per level up is 22 HP. 68*22=1496. 325 HP comes from the fourth job advancement. 5362+1496+325=7183. 7183 HP at level 155. 12,000 HP goal. 12000-7183=4817. 4817 to wash to. 22 HP gained per HP wash with fresh level up AP on average. 4817/22=219. 219 HP washes needed (after putting your 115 AP in HP).

    219*12=2628 MP used

    5487-2628=2859. 2859 MP remaining after washing to 12,000 HP at level 155.

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    So in summary...

    Put all 115 of your fresh AP in HP right now.
    Level 88-108: Put all 5 of your fresh AP in HP (104 AP, since you did 115 already, so 219-115=104).
    Leech to level 135.
    At level 135:
    196 AP Resets: -INT +Stat
    334 AP Resets: -MP +Stat

    Idk why my manual calculations and spreadsheet calculations are different from each other. The difference is less than 100, so it's really no big deal. I'll figure it out later. Too sleepy now. The math all checks out, so do the above you'll be just fine. :D
     
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    This makes me curious because I put in 10 AP into mp a while ago (after having 200 base int) and I recorded each AP put in I gained 30mp rather than the 19

    But this is now irrelevant because you say I don't need to mp wash

    a. Edit: Also when you said I will have 2859 MP left @ 155 (Last line before your image), is that after the 334 AP resets: -MP + Stat?

    Thank you for your help!

    b. In addition I also used your calculator to see if I could stop my leeching & reset Int @ 120. Does this make sense?
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    c. Continuity question: Here you said
    under e.
    "219 HP washes needed (after putting your 115 AP in HP)."
    & near the end of your post
    "Level 88-108: Put all 5 of your fresh AP in HP ( 104 since you did 115 already, so 219-115=104)"

    The first took the 115 AP into hp to find how much hp I needed left and I think you may have done it again for the second line? Or I could just be confused
     
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