What to so with clean 8att pgc?

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    So since the moment I joined the server I voted everyday and saved the nx.
    This weekend I reached lvl 50 and decided to use all my nx on Kerning gach.
    Got super lucky and received a 8att pgc
    Now , I have 2 options
    1. Sell it for an unknown price since it's rare as fk
    2. Try my luck with chaos scrolls
    I'm not funded and managed to get 2b for all the other gach Items I got.
    I don't think that's enough for chaos scrolls , and I'm not sure but I think I also need white scrolls (?)
    Your thoughts ?
     
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    sell it and establish decent funds for your 1st char with it. Like gloves and decent weaps cloths. Att gears on capes and such come as last in the funding of a char
     
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    What is your current main character?
    Also an 8 ATT clean PGC isn't THAT rare. I think around 4-5 bil.
     
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    you can sell it for around 4b, maybe more or chaos it along with ws ofc, thats up to you
     
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    I was in your shoes a few months back. I saved up enough for chaos scrolls and white scrolls and scrolled it to a 15 att.. which isn't even all that great if you think about it.. from 8-15 on 5 scrolls? I sold it yesterday for 22 WS. Try your luck, have faith in cs/ws
     
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    Both options are equally good. It all depends on your preference.
    1) I would choose this option if you currently need to funds for buy other stuff such as int gear or fully scrolled attack gears.
    2) do this option if you want to risk and gamble. You don't need white scroll to chaos scroll item. White scroll is for luxury. Don't forget Chaos scroll can LOWER attack on your cape and make you lose billions. Or it can increase attack on your cape and make you earn billions.
     
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    Yeah but eventually I will need to buy a cape which 8 att without any slots is almost 2b

    I'm a spearman . That's my only char

    How many as cs did it take u to succeed all of them

    But you do need ws as chaos scrolls is only 60% to work
    And yeah it's pretty much a gamble. But in the other hand , I didn't know if I wanted to gach or just go safe and sell so resets and it sure as hell paid off
     
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    I passed all 5 I used.. and white scrolled with all
     
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    in the long run 4b is nothing in this server.

    chaos it yourself for the max gains
     
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    lmao who are you kidding, 8 att pgc clean is rare af.
    Taamir i'd chaos & white scroll it
     
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    I'd just sell it. You can't even afford to fully scroll it with 2b and chances are that you'll lose out on it anyway.
     
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    Dont cs/ws unless your prepared to lose 10b before making any gains which in your case you shouldnt. Maybe youll get lucky but otherwise your just flat out screwed considering your current assets.
     
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    WS + CS scrolling for ppl who for rich people. I said about people who has +10b to spend. In other hand you barely have meso for 4 cs. Like i said ws is for luxury. I know that you don't want to fail the slot because of that 40% fail rate. But rate for at least +1 attack from chaos scrolling is lower than 30%. Getting all at least +1 attack all 5 slots is less than .25% (not 25%). Less than 1%. Don't expect too high or you will be disappointed.
     
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    But... the EV of a dice roll is 3.5, not 3
     
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    Exactly. [;)]
     
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    chaos scroll possibility is not from 1 to 5. It's from -5 to 5 including 0. Which means average is 0
     
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    ... did you read what I write?
     
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    oh oops. my bad. I've thought you were comparing possibility of rolling dice with chaos scrolling's.
     
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    Chaos scrolling is incredibly risky, because even if the scroll passes, it randomly chooses between -5 and +5 stats.

    This means when you slap a chaos on that cape, you have:
    • 40% chance to fail and lose a slot (loss of 1B in cape value + 500M in CS)
    • 5% chance to pass but get 0 attack (same as losing a slot)
    • 27% chance to pass but get minus attack (lose even more)
    • 27% chance to pass and get positive attack (make lots of profit, potentially doubling or tripling your assets)

    If you do chaos + WS, then you have:
    • 40% chance to fail and lose no slots (loss of 1B in CS + WS)
    • 5% chance to pass but get 0 attack (loss of 1B in cape value + 1B in CS + WS)
    • 27% chance to pass but get minus attack (lose even more)
    • 27% chance to pass and get positive attack (make lots of profit, potentially doubling or tripling your assets)
    If the first slot goes well, then the other slots follow a similar pattern, except the gains / losses are much more drastic.

    Think about these numbers before you decide whether or not you want to scroll the cape yourself. One question I always ask myself is: if this goes badly, how easily can I recover from it?
    • For established players who can sell high-level leech, boss daily, or do high-value merching, even if they lose billions, they can recover in 1 week or 2 weeks. It will be painful, but not very destructive.
    • For the richest players, they may choose to chaos scroll more items. If any of those items go well, they can recover the loss.
    • However, in your case, it will be a long wait before you can make another 6B, unless you get lucky with gach again. It will delay your leveling, HP washing, and gearing up progress.

    Now, if you still want to scroll it yourself after listening to all these, then you have much more guts than I do. Good luck and hope it goes well :D
     
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