I haven't been able to find a specific answer to this question. Which classes need to HP wash? I know NLs are fucked if they don't. I hear Shads don't because of Meso Guard. I hear Corsairs have to, but I also hear they don't because they have the ship thing. Would like some more explanation there. Bucc's don't? I hear both bowman and xbowman do, but my source wasn't sure. I believe warriors don't have to, but it's pretty cheap for them to do so, so why not. And DKs need to for Berzerk or something? Plz explain? I know mages don't. lulululul Plz let me know if I am right or wrong <3
All classes can HP wash, most of them should. Whether its a small amount of washing, or a large. None NEED washing though. NL's are mostly dependant on washing. Shadowers should wash, Meso Guard only helps so much. Corsairs are hard, cause you need to wash a certain amount. Not too much, not too little, because of ship and 1\1 attacks. Hard to calibrate, but definitely worth it. Buccs aren't reliant on washing, but why not? DrK's usually was a bit, to be able to zerk most bosses as well. Mages can wash. 30k hp mage any1?
And why do so many guides say to start washing after 70? They don't give a reason for it. Can I not wash after 30? Or are the washes more effective after the 3rd job advancement?
Most of those guides probably have something to do with MP Washing because at 70, you'll have a good amount of base Int to justify investing your level up AP into MP. You could start earlier, but if you're just aiming for a high HP total and not 30k both HP and MP, you won't have to worry about starting at level 30.
That is, if you're thinking about doublewashing. Most guides actually want you to wait uintill 70, because the MP pool has built up a bit, and you would gain more by adding AP into HP, and withdrawing directly from MP back to stats. This is called singlewashing.
I don't see why being level 70+ with a larger MP pool changes a single thing. You don't gain any more HP per AP simply by having more more MP. In fact, if you're using a class that benefits from using fresh AP into HP, you're making it harder for yourself by waiting rather than using your extra MP at every chance you get.
I've been wondering...instead of wasting money on AP resets and washing, why not just invest a few points in HP while leveling, even if damage suffers a bit? Like...poor man's way to fight bosses
the amount of points that you would have to spend to make a significant increase in your HP (survive 2 hits of a boss instead of 1 for the cases of zak, pianus, 2nd body of pap, and ht, or not get 1hko in the cases of anego, bf, bg) would make your dmg suffer a lot.
This is called Blood Washing. This was a thing back then when people didn't want to use real life money on AP Resets. However, they might be better off using equips that give HP rather than messing around with their AP build.
In my opinion, this isn't worth doing because if you don't have money to wash right now, you can put AP into Int and slowly wash while you accumulate your funds.
My thoughts, exactly. Do they just say 70 to be friendlier to poorer newbies? Or is there actually a numerical advantage to washing after 70?
I think it is to be friendlier to people who are poorer. There isn't any advantage to washing after 70, as in you don't get bonus hp if you wait until after 3rd job. People probably wait so that their funds don't suffer as much. I've been washing a bowman whenever I get AP resets at level 5x but I also have 200 base int on it so I completely gave up on doing dmg early on (I barely got through 2nd job advance )
Many, who simplewash would not have a pool sufficiant to dealing with 5 ap resets/level (For a NL thats 600 int), while at level 7o, you would have built up a small pool, which allows you to wash 5 ap resets an level, and not 1 or 2.
However, even if it is just 1 or 2, I still think it's fine to wash before 70. After all, NL's need to use fresh ap to reset so might as well start as early as possible even if it is only 1 or 2 a level I think. Just don't spam all of your ap into hp all at once, do it one at a time so you don't put in too many
The point is, this is only a thing if you're single-washing. Does not matter at all if you wait til 70, or start at 30 by doing 1-2 at a time. Just a bit more convenient doing multiples at a time.
The thing is, if you're a thief you definitely want to start as soon as possible. It's true that if you're not a thief, it won't matter when you start. If you wait as a thief, you'll just have to wait that much longer to wash because the 1-2 you can do per level will add up a lot before 70. to make up for it you would need to leech/make do with reduced damage for longer.
