Disclaimers : 1.This post is just a discussion, please don't go ahead and scream stuff at the GMs/Staff. 2.I'll make sure to make the post better over time, right now its pretty trash because I mostly wanted to throw the idea to you guys due to my interest and curiosity about the community's response regarding the subject. Cheers. This is an idea that came from this thread - https://royals.ms/forum/threads/would-hp-washing-ever-be-removed.113492/ Right now we'll start with the very basic concept, I have no idea how far can we develop the theory as a community but right now that's as far the simple idea - A separate world that does not have HP washing as an option. Reasoning - Mostly personal but pointing out some obvious stuff but still. Nostalgic aspect- since HP washing wasn't popular in the old days due to the cost(In some servers). Lack Of Fun(Opinion) - A known issue(arguable) with private servers is how easily NX can be obtained, for that reason, HP washing has become the norm, regarding to most of the classes, mostly ranged though. That means, that if a player intends on playing a ranged class(e.g NL), he must learn the ways of HP washing, before opening his character, or delete his current one and remake a character due to missing the HP washing. Therefore, that player will have to grind his butt to get the funds necessary, for the AP resets and the INT gear(if needed), and will have to constantly be "under leveled"(during the early game) since most of his APs go towards the washing, which leaves him pretty weak compared to basic characters. All the effort only to find a party without having to convince people for hours or have a BFF DrK. Y'all are dope asf - So the reason I wouldn't just want to go to another server and play there, is because the community here is unique and awesome, therefore in some way to keep the true Royals experience combined with the idea of not having HP washing. The removal of HP washing should solve that problem, and create a more balanced world and in some way skill ceiling, in which I'm assuming DrK will be popular, and people will be able to find random parties without the need of having a 30k hp NL. (Mostly how I phrase the issue but I'm assuming that if you care about the subject you get the general idea). Feel free to argue about anything and/or develop the theory, though make sure you keep it calm and peaceful. Feel free to also develop this fictional idea of "A World Without HP Washing", in case one day it will be considered(maybe after the new sauce stuff will be done, but obviously there are way more urgent stuff out there rn so don't expect anything). Also feel free to bring up more reasons/support the reasons above to a claim for that world, since the reasons I wrote aren't finished nor good, since it was mostly stuff that I brought up from memory and not actual fact checking. That's it. Enjoy!
As I said in the other thread, just make the Master Adventurer medal(4th job medal) give just enough HP for ranged characters to do HT at 155. That way people don't have to HP wash, but if they want to get more or max HP, they can. This wouldn't punish the people that already HP washed and make it easier for new players. Not sure how easy that is to implement. I think a new server would just split off a portion of the community. We have about 1-1.5k people online at any given time. But how many of those are mules? People dual or triple clienting? Or does the system only look at IP's connected and not characters? Either way, not worth splitting off a portion of the community
Yeah, to be honest a different way to combat hp washing would be better. A new world would work great if the community was much larger, but splitting the community right now sounds like a bad idea. All the new players would go there and any veterans wouldn't want to leave.
I wouldn’t tbh. People complaining they can’t wash because is expensive is just merely excuses to me. For instance I finished my 6th HT run of the day last night. It is by working hard ( in this case bossing) I earn meso
I don't think earning money is hard by any means, especially in this version, but the point was that you can't really boss with a ranged class unless you made a previous class or somehow managed to gain a huge amount of money in the early game, which will require some preparation like voting a lot or idk luck from Gachapon I guess . So like for example you use bossing as a method to earn money, but no one will want a non washed NL/BM when there are so many "better" options out there since the server is at a point where washing is the norm. If you get what I'm saying. Btw I have mad respect for you because I always manage to find you in the buying section doing tons of work.
Yeah. When I started, my main was a bishop. When it was the time for me to make my first attacker I decided to make a 30k bm (lol). Back then I funded myself out of pure leech selling. There were people who would just hate doing this and rather APQ all day, which was profitable. My friend washed his NL out of pure APQ (ofc this is not a viable option at the time). Indeed you gotta chose the better option for bossing which is why majority of the player base tries to be that “better option”, and there is no way to achieve that without investing time and effort (bossing, leeching, merching), everything requires an effort. That was my point, and thanks always trying my best to help ( I actually like it)
Like the above comments have stated, I'm not against hp washing, I just wish it were more clear that you should be doing it. I started washing at level 50 because I knew I should and read the forums. Some of my friends haven't even started yet and we're in the 70s range now. Sure it's gonna take me a long time before I can properly boss but I kind of like it that way. It keeps the game interesting to see when I can finally take down that difficult boss. I played GAS for a long time and it's really boring when the only thing that you're gated by is damage range
What is the point of wanting something and not use it? There are other PS where can play without HP WASH and are better than Royals, just need to find something new f2.
I like the community here far better than every community that I've been to in my PS experience. I personally don't play the game whatsoever and only active(well very active) on the forums. The reason being is that even if I can let the game go for my own reasons, I can't let go of this community. Amazing people, amazing co-operation etc etc. Not sure what you meant by "and not use it" though.
I definitely would. I'd completely pick up shop and move, remake my characters there, and never return except to say hi. I'm quite the casual player, and had never even heard of HP washing before Royals. I've figured washing out well enough, but I dread doing it on my future characters.
I think I'd enjoy it more because you could jump straight to the class you want to play, and you can ACTUALLY PLAY it 1-135. But, the big issue is that two worlds might split the population in a weird way leading to players quitting. I bet all new players would go to the new world. Seems risky..
I definitely would. However, being at this server since the near beginning I wouldn't say to change this server. It's in a good spot. I also only consider this server when it comes to playing maple, I'm not that active but trying to be. Being older now and having life to deal with makes it hard but I wouldn't want to change what this server has become.
I'm actually inlove with the ironman challenge and adore y'all. constantly checking on people's progress in that thread.
