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  1. Sarcasm
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    View your opinions on the Current rates of MapleRoyals.
    i think few of us speak up about the rates and views on anything, yes it can seem picky, fussy and not to mention a complaining whining shit, but truth be told many have been unhappy with current rates like i myself.
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    For TL;TR scrubs, do not read what i have to say if you don't want to view someones opinion, read below it and above it.

    My reason of what and why is as follows:
    Official release came too fast in my opinion, not only this but the poll vote for rates was beyond too soon. i think the poll votes for rates should have been ongoing During the beta(by this point we played a week of 200x) which also should have been extended. i picked 10x EXP and others did too, not to expect it would be so brutal for us all. in result the process has gone so far the games still filled with bugs and not many working party quests, we LOVED KPQ yesterday and it was hilarious! but LPQ is broken..
    i dont want 200x, i think it should be bumped up a bit more like 30x and see if that helps a little. at the moment i understand nobody else is Coding Matt, but more time of alpha would have perhaps been the best idea, i think it would have gave everyone time to set out on what they are doing, where to grind and other stuff.

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    I Made this thread because Matt earlier on did suggest to me perhaps i should make a thread and get other peoples views on rates etc.
    this thread is purposely open for other players opinions to speak out on what they dislike towards the rates or maybe they like the rates but want a slight change? just drop your own Reason and Why below so Matt can have some Feedback.
     
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    I think 20x would be fine, and would also say anything more than 50x is too much.
     
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    I've done a bit of grinding... I don't seem to mind the experience rate. I like how it is challenging and not as easy to level. I agree it must suck that most of the party quests are not working. But I can assure you that I am striving to fix them and can almost guarantee some will be fixed by the morning.

    Either going from 200x exp or going from EMS PMD with 2x & ringmules etc to pre-big bang maplestory on 10x exp is going to be pretty brutal no matter what way you look at it.

    Yes we could have probably done with longer testing time but I was afraid that people would get bored of waiting. Now yes, I am afraid that people may not be enjoying the game as much as anyone had hoped. But I am trying my hardest to get an NX system sorted (in the next few hours) and PQ's sorted because I know that is probably two of the main things people are wanting right now which might make their MapleRoyals experience a bit more enjoyable.

    Thanks for making the thread, I would love to see other peoples views on this.
     
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    I have been thinking about this topic for quite some time now, and I have to admit I do have some mixed feelings. I voted for 10x because I thought 10x was the best option, but now that I am seeing that only KPQ is available and none of the rest are is a little disheartening. Because of this, everyone has to stay in one map and kill things nonstop till they level. If I had known that this would have been the case, I would of voted for the highest experience option available because honestly, who wants to level from 1 to 200 by just simply killing things? I do not know the amount of labor that is necessary to fix everything in the bug report section of the forums, but I feel that if the problems that everyone agrees on as being the most severe are not fixed then there is no reason that this server is post beta material.
    I understand some of the problems that have been encountered could not have been discovered without implementing the 10x and deleting all accounts, and it was a good thing we did this since I feel that it was a good “trial run”, but I cannot agree in keeping this server as 10x. My reasons being majorly because of the fact that the only party quest possible at this point is Kerning, and to level after that you have to train, and only train, and train some more all the way to the point that everyone else is around your level somewhere like 150 or so and you can all team up on bosses like Zakum to gain massive experience on 10x to level. But the space between “KPQ------End Game Fun” is much too vast.
    My second reason being that right now, everyone started playing at the same time and we can help each other out. Let’s say that we keep 10x and go through this time period where there are no party quests and reach 4rth job professions and continue to level with epic boss battles. The problem is, at this point everyone will be a high level and people who are coming into the server as level 1 will not have anyone else to do party quests with. An experience rate higher than 10x, such as 25x (just an example) gives users the option of collaborating and doing party quests if people are present, but at the same time preventing the determent of people when they have to level up on 10x without party quests.
     
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    I know you're working hard on trying to sort things at the moment Matt and we do appreciate that, so thank you.

    To be honest, my opinion, as like mikeys. Anything more then 50x is stupid. Id say putting it to 20-30x might make us enjoy it a little more. I think we are way too used to how things are after big bang compared to the struggles we went through. But remember, most of these struggles was spent as major newbs just starting out in the game. I believe knowing the huge potential you can make your character to be, it's like pressing on your mind, WHY AM I SO CRAP?!.. *cough*.. Anyway. We are used to the higher rates and I think it would be hard to fall out of the habit we are now into. I think the drop and meso rate isnt bad at all. It's just exp that is most depressing at the moment, I like the challenge too, but I think to myself(im sure others had to), when the hell was it this hard on 1x? xD Yes not having pq's is a downside at the moment, but we're going to have to deal with that for now, thats why I think an increase in exp might help. I don't believe the increase in an exp rate would stop people pqing though. Im going to agree a little with bart above. I really didnt think that 10x would be this way. I knew 1x was iffy but 10x just feels like 1x.. i hate you big bang. I enjoy the pq and i get to party with some oldies that i havnt been pqing with in like over a year! Chris! Legit HT run again please, just like disturbed days!<3

    You know its bad when you resort to being a hene hoe :(
     
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    Oh and by the way Matt, on the MapleRoyals website you still have the rates listed as 200/50/30
     
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    Yeah maybe bump it up a bit until all the pq's are implemented at least?
     
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    I like it the way it is. The whole point of this server is to be nostalgic isn't it? TBH I wouldn't even mind if it was 5x.
     
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    The whole idea of making this server was to make it as close to pre big bang as possible. If we bump up the exp rates it will get boring fast ive tried a lot of private servers and found the faster you level the more boing it becomes ypou have nothing to do. This is like maple was in the old days. A CHALLENGE. The drop rate would probably help to be raised with mesos for pots and equips but I think the exp rate is fine the way it is. Thats just my opinion.
     
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    it is for the nostalgia but once that is gone what are we left with?
    that feeling will only stay for a little while imo and as said above, we were never pro when we started in pre bb so not knowing what lies ahead made it alot more fun.
    but since we have all nearly went to 200. killed all the bosses in ems etc and we know everything there is to know now, they exploration section is gone. so its just pqing and grinding we are left with

    what we got here now is just hard ass grinding as the pqs arent working and we got spoilt with the 200x exp and ems bb and the x2 x3 etc events

    pretty much when ems had 3x exp none stop everyone was leveling, but as soon as that went back to 1x no one leveled as they got spoilt.

    give it some time and people will adapt a bit more but im not sure if we will fully be able to get to grips with long grinding sesh to get 1 level like the old days.

    maybe 25x exp would be good as that was basicly the top end of what you could get pre bb with RM, PMD, HS card ect

    but all i really care about is me wanting my fury hair so i can get my original look again ;o
     
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    I guess most of you guys didn't play GMS back in 2005/2006? :p
     
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    I did! Managed to hit the grand level of 34 on one of my characters! :O *fuck yeah*
     
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    Some people here might have not played GMS, only EMS. xd
     
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    Too be honest, I only played on higher rates like 500x. I don't mind low rates, but I think that 25x would be a nice rate. Some people complain about the fact that there is no "Free" nexon cash. But the point that you have too vote to get it, is good in my opinion.

    I would like too see some custom stuff, but that will take a long time to code and implent I guess. Also a custom economic system, is one thing that I miss. But it is just a starting server, and I think that it comes with time.
     
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    earlier a few had the idea of, why not just make 2x exp cards work eventually instead? nx has to be earned through vote and found within tickets, even with 2x cards this will still be an effort. you'd proberly say though "well what does this solve?" it would solve people wanting 20x and people wanting to keep it at 10x. though thats an idea but i know it may take a while for such to be given thought over. anyway my views kinda change...i'm currently on lvl72 now and lvling has taken some time but i'm begining to enjoy it, always hated oldschool lvl50-75 range, once i'm out of that i will be more then happy with the current rates.
     
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    It seems as if people are enjoying the game more now than they did before which is great. But can tell people are getting annoyed with the bugs mainly. I want to just remind people that there is currently only 1 person here currently working their ass off trying to figure out how to fix the bugs and sort shit out.

    I've been trying to sort bugs out in a balanced fashion like trying to fix quests as well as incorrect drops and stuff. Yesterday I had to rescript a few NPC's from scratch. Don't think people realise how much time and effort is required to do that. Just fixing Alcaster took at least a couple of hours. To put this into perspective, I have not slept in my bed in over 10 days! I've literally been at this shit non stop for 10 days sitting on the sofa in the living room with my laptop falling asleep on the sofa every day and night while everyone else is casually grinding away

    My plan for yesterday was to actually be able to play the game and grind for a bit but that didn't happen haha.
     
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    I very much appreciate what you're doing, I don't think that anyone doesn't appreciate you. We are just using this forum to voice concerns and opinions about things that could be changed but the rate at which things are being fixed isn't bothering me. Keep up the great work!.
     
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    2 suggestions. Prepare yourselves.

    Shit sons!

    Personally the rates are perfect for me.
    But it seems the majority of the server dislikes the low rates because there's no pq's, not that many fully working quests and such.
    I understand that..

    I'm going to suggest something, well two things.

    1st: What do you all think of upgradeable rates?

    at lvl 30 you can do a quest (that is hard) to raise your exp rate by 5x.
    This happens at say every job advance (or something like that), you get the point..
    Upgradeable rates are something I've always loved, and are very scarce. Not only does it make grinding easier as you go on I think it gives another thing to achieve with lvling apart from job advancement, skills, stats and equips. (It's another thing to aim for).



    2nd: Decreasing rates, thoughts?
    What if you start with say.. 30x.
    at lvl 30 it decreases to 20x
    at lvl 70 it decreases to 15x and finally,
    at lvl 120 it decreases to 10x (pure examples of course).
    This will make early lvling easier and quicker so that newbies can catch up to the main population (higher lvls) and then move onto bossing.


    I think the 2nd suggestion solves a lot of people's problems to do with the rates being so low.


    Personally I love the rates as they are. every lvl and every 3 skill points is a challenge and an achievement and it keeps me driven. I believe it's not fun if it's easy for everyone to get to the same point in the game coz I feel like I'm not beating anyone.

    I may make another thread based on these 2 suggestions so we can clearly see some thoughts
     
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    and btw Matt no one's criticizing how much work you're putting in (i dont think), sure they're complaining about the bugs and stuff but quite literally screw them. You always had the best intentions for the server and your heart is always in the right place so keep doing what you're doing. Many, many many people (probably everyone here) appreciate your hard work so please keep that in mind.
     
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