So Paladins, how are they?

I'm honestly new to how Old Maple works and was just wondering how is Page, White Knight and Paladin in this server generally? Just needed some thoughts/opinions.

 

Very good. They perform above average in pqs, bossing, and grinding.

 

Stronk, cheapest to fund

 

Paladin is upper-tier single target DPS when paired with SI while using a 2h sword, great survivability, and party supporting with a total crash skill. Refer to https://royals.ms/forum/threads/comprehensive-paladin-guide-haplopelma.161247/ for more info

 

dont say so much
paladin no.1!!!

 

Thanks to those that replied!

 

Mules

 

gonna focus on endgame content (ht+cwkpq primarily) because at midgame bosses the classes don't make all that big a difference
its relatively easy to get into ht runs as a pally, because u can both be the seduce target and provide crash, so even if you arent super funded i think most people would be happy to bring you along
for cwkpq on the other hand...pallies are pretty trash tbh. I'm not a main pally, but from what I know the elements of the melee bosses don't mix well, and pally is generally a single-target focused class, while in cwk ppl generally need the warriors to have good multitarget damage

 

Forgot auf, where pallys are among buccs the kings

 

You godamn meme uppertier single target dps while using 2h sword lmfao I hate you.

Jokes aside. This is a great class for solo playing and great for party play. Cheap to start off and can do most content without washing. If you have any specific questions feel free to send me a pm.

 

Ooh really. In that case, yes I do, but honestly speaking I've no idea how to start a conversation in the forums. Tried looking for something but failed to.

 

just reply any question you have in my paladin guide, your question are as useful to you as they might be to new paladins looking for similar answers.
https://royals.ms/forum/threads/comprehensive-paladin-guide-haplopelma.161247/#post-948683

Cheers, Haplopelma

 

Those 2h swords>skull comments hit me in the nuts

 

Why would someone flame u? LOL, the only good part of using skull is that u can reach cap earlier, but its well know that swords are better

 

All i meant is that i went the wrong path choosing bw over sword, who the hell said something about flaming, LOL

 

Yes, my bad, i missread ,sowwy

Edit. Is not a bad choice per so tho, i would say that at lower funds(45att gears or less) and having SI bw is better? Can a exp pally like @Haplopelma confirm?

 

It's a lot weaker and it only gets worse when you start reaching the damage cap.

 

Dunno why people are spreading stuff like that. It just hurts the community of paladins. BW is not a lot weaker than 2H SW. They are different and you will derive different benefits from 1h vs 2h. Sure, you can say 2h does more damage but to say 1h is much weaker is insane. Ive played a 160 skull with decent gear and I can tell you, you need significant investment before you start hitting cap too often. Furthermore, these cap threads always refer to optimal bossing scenarios (MW20, Echo, Gelt/Apple). I don't know about you but im on apple less than 5% of my game time. I am putting in a lot of time and effort to try and help paladins understand the class and the various choices they can make regarding weapon choices. Young paladins going bw are extremely discouraged reading comments like that that makes them second doubt their choices when it is an extremely uneducated remark. I had many paladin friends quit because of stuff like that and it is why I take such a strong stance on the issue.

@Relmy ty for tagging so I can give my input

Cheers,
Haplopelma

 

I shared my experience and I find 1h bw a lot weaker than 2h sword. They have less range, theyre more reliant on si, and they still do less damage overall. This affects both their ability to boss and grind.

The damage cap isn't the main problem when comes to their differences, but it helps contribute to it. People might be discouraged of doing 1h bw, but I would rather offer them a realistic view of what they would get into. You speak of end game content as a reference to why they're not so different and I am pointing out their flaws in multiple situations that aren't based on end game.

They're weaker, they have less range, they're more expensive, and they're more reliant on SI. This is also coming from someone with a perfect skull crusher and mapleshield.

 

@OrcaGel I see where you are coming from. Your argument makes sense when we are speaking of players like you and I able to afford these perfect items. The demographic targeted in this thread is most likely not someone that is gonna have a perfect skull/claymore when deciding whether a paladin is a good class. These players will most likely spend 1-3 years grinding to 200. At these levels, similar investment in skull-shield and a claymore/st is gonna yield you very similar results in terms of dps. The variance comes from players like you and I being able to hit cap. And once again, the problem is not that we do less damage, that is an undisputed fact that 2h > 1h> in terms of damage. But you litterally break the class down to dps > all which I am against. I have talked extensively about this but guardian is a hell of a good spell in a lot of circumstances. This addresses your first point that they have less range (which is true at very high level of fundings)
Your second argument that they are more expensive is not true at all. With the recent changes to shields, prices have been at an all time low for shields. I am seeing shields with 20 atk for less than 500m. That is insane. BW is way cheaper than swords at the moment. ST and Claymore prices are extremely inflated for some reasons at this time. 130 ST for 4B? You can probably get 160+ damage with skull and shield for cheaper than that. The only thing I can concede in this regard is the fact that BWs are rarer and that is true. You probably claim that they are most expensive because you have a perfect skull and shield which is way more expensive than a 146 or 150. However, mid tier items are vastly overpriced in the sword area imo while bw are relatively cheap due to CWKPQ and shield change recently.

On your idea that Bw being reliant on SI: Sure ST will perform slightly better than skull without si. Does that mean you are gonna disregard the whole class of bw because st is slightly more efficient without SI, that seems farfetched to me. Then again, why are there so many dumb asses using claymore then when ST> Claymore Duh! I played this class for about 200 levels before paladin buffs and the only bucc I played with was Alex a handful of times. I did fine and so will all the paladins out there with no SI

Now I am not sure if you have experience with Sw and Bw, but I feel like people are vastly overestimating how much better 2h is and it is hurting the paladin community.

I respect your opinion, you can state it the way you say it. But what I am against is the attitude that 2h> 1h (while only using the argument that dps is higher). You will agree that your argument is biased when you take into consideration only 1 aspect of the equation. Imagine how farfetched it would be for me to make a thread stating that 1h > 2h and only using the 15% guardian proc chance to justify it while completely ignoring the dps aspect, it would be a laughing matter.
Once again I will reinstate, THEY ARE DIFFERENT, DPS ISN'T ALL.

Cheers buddy,
Haplopelma