Bossing Remove Ephenia (Fairy boss) teleport mechanic and lower Boss spawn HP

I'd like to suggest removing Ephenia's teleport mechnaic, it's really useless in a boss fight and the main cause for a LOT of DC's there.

I found out today that everytime Ephenia teleports she makes an invisible clone of herself which stack up and consume memory over time, this leads to a lot of DC's in just this mechanic of hers, the mechanic itself adds nothing of value to the fight and only causes memory overload which leads to DC.

My DC rate at Ephenia's map is about 50% which is really high considering I almost never DC at any other boss map, and I believe a lot of other people has this same problem, by just taking away the teleport mechanic of Ephenia (which doesn't really add anything to the boss fight other than having to move around a little bit) would improve the experience for a lot of people, so that they don't have to worry about dcing there.

I'd also like to suggest to lower the hp of the boss spawns, since the boss spawn themselves are like mini bosses due to how tanky they are, they can't be frozen, stunned or knocked back even, and it's ridiculous of how much hp they have considering that Ephenia is a boss meant for lv 10x-11x (the level needed when doing the pre-quest for Elin pq)

I'd like to give out a props to Hachimitsu who explained to me why the DC rate is so high and about the memory problem which occurs due to it.

I hope that the admin team takes this into consideration and implements this into the game as soon as possible, and if you'd like to keep the teleport mechanic, at least find a way for it to not increase the memory overload which causes the dc.

 

I can relate to the low level characters trying to survive in Ephenia.

I too died once at Ephenia when I was a 5.5k hp level 12x bowmaster.

 

I'd like to add that as long as Ephenia's teleport causes her to become the newest monster on the map, single-target classes are mega screwed since their skills will always target the spawns before they target Ephenia. Demolition straight up doesn't work as long as those spawns exist within range, and they have enough HP to easily soak up multiple demolitions each.

I cannot overstate how absurdly over-the-top their HP values are. Each fairy spawn can survive two snipes. Two! A minion spawned by a boss designed for 11x-12x can take TWO hits from a marksman's ultimate single-target skill that typically gets maxed around 14x-15x. And they're spawned in six at a time. Every time Ephenia uses that move, she creates like 3,000,000 worth of HP that you have to get through before you can hit her normally again. Absolutely mental.

Plus, not killing the spawns quickly enough means that they can stun you, and if you're a shadower using dark sight in a poison cloud at the time, you are dead within seconds.

There are multiple severe problems with Ephenia beyond just the disconnection issues, and they won't be fixed just by making the teleport consume less memory.

 

I usually somehow manage it with the mob spawn, but isn't it possible to disable the teleport mechanic till you find a optimal solution for the memory overload?

I mean a lot of people DC at Ephenia, the only reason that i can figure out that my DC rate is lower than the usual peps could be that I have 16gb RAM + a nvidia GTX 1650 graphics card, but i doubt a lot of people has such computers, people with average computers would probably not last long in Ephenia before disconnecting.

Disabling the teleport mechanic would open up Ephenia to a lot of people which I assume is what the general public would want.

 

Ephenia at her current performance is too annoying for me. I agree

 

Make good use of puppet, you don't have to deal with fairy.

 

This thread is an inside joke right?

 

Just curious, why do you use pineapple chews instead of concentrate skill?

 

why do you think a person’s post in the feedback section on the forum that has multiple serious replies from players and the server owner is an inside joke?

 

I voted to remove the teleport skill because it's annoying even though I play a Hero.

My specs are much much lower than yours and I don't dc at all (Nvidia GT 650m and 8 gigs of ram).

 

Because it takes less than 2 minutes to down this boss and her summons?

But by all means... make it easier!

 

okay so you assume everyone’s experience is similar to yours, so you think it’s funny

well, if you read the thread, maybe you can open your mind to the fact that other people have difficulty with this boss, even though you might not

 

Thanks, I'll be sure to keep that in mind when killing Ephenia on my bucc.

Puppet doesn't work when there are multiple players present, so this advice is literally only useful for BM solos. I suppose I could try it on my MM, but I'm not a funded lv200 like you, so it probably won't work because I can't pin her.

I hate this attitude so much. You're basically saying "you're having a bad experience because you're not a 17x+ funded character, so I'm happy to let you continue having a bad experience because it affects you and not me". You want the game to be worse for unfunded peasants like us. This kind of elitism has no place in a feedback thread.

 

No? I don’t think it’s funny.

It’s just a knowledge gap, there are many strategies that can be used by all players struggling with the boss, like Matt suggested you may want to consider partying with other players if you’re finding it too difficult.

Or perhaps you could apply a strategy similar to the one Yamakoz pointed out in the video!

Either way I’ll be online tomorrow if you still need help getting the quest done.

 

^ absolutely agree with @Baconfry

I appreciate that you’re trying to convey a willingness to help, but your initial comment of ‘is this an inside joke’ is pretty disrespectful to others, and can come across like you think that the struggles of others is funny. Why did you ask if it’s an inside joke then?

 

You’re just completely derailing this thread by asking because you don’t like me for one reason or another but it should be pretty obvious that I was using sarcasm.

Do you honestly believe that when Ellin Forest came out that I didn’t struggle with her as a level 14x Nightlord. Funded? No, very far from it. But through many runs I learned how to optimise the fight in my favour. Something I think everyone should do through trial and error, before coming to the forums to demand that it be nerfed. Simply because her summons tanked two snipe shots or because you didn’t have the foresight to think that she could summon her fairies ontop of you and then a gas cloud seconds after.

 

Reminder for everyone to stay on topic
Back when it was released I struggled a bit with my bm as well. Thanks for the tips @Yakamoz. Obviously as you get stronger it’s getting easier but that’s just how it is for bossing in general. Although most people Solo Ephenia just like Pap and Chao it doesn’t mean it was designed that way.

For lower levels the exp in a party should be okay. The stronger or higher leveled people rather come for the drops esp. the 5k NX.

The teleport so that melee loses target lock and tanky summons hindering ranged classes are meant to be a challenge. Heartstoppers should be a good dps boost for the ones struggling, while only being a couple million Mesos for the fight.

I can only echo Matt about the dc issues with the memory leaks. Our game isn’t optimal for sure, but i can assure you our devs are constantly trying to improve it. Some things are just more important than one skill causing issues for some players at one boss. It can be frustrating for sure to lose a run due to that - as we have prolly all been there, but we will need to be patient. This bug is not forgotten and is still on our list!

 

I don’t believe that holding people accountable for their disrespectful responses to a genuine feedback thread is derailing it, and I have no idea who you are nor do I have a grudge against you. If everyone who posts genuine feedback gets a response like yours to their thread, that would deter people from voicing their opinions.

I have no problem with completing Ephinia, but I can empathize and sympathize with OP.

 

True, but something is clearly wrong with a boss when the only people consistently killing it are 50+ levels higher than the intended level.

A challenge for whom? How can we expect characters in the 11x-12x level range to deal 3 million total damage to those things, and still have time between spawns to actually damage the boss? I get that the purpose of spawns is to get in the way, but they stick around for so long that it's easy to end up with a swarm of them that never stops growing.

There are good reasons for this. Her drops and EXP aren't worth enough that people would be willing to cut into their profits and smega for help. It's much easier to grind to a high enough level on a class that can bulldoze through Ephenia's bullshit, and that's what most people seem to have done, and they've done it for so long that they've apparently forgotten that Ephenia is supposed to be an early 4th job boss.

If content was designed a certain way, and players approach it in a different way, that creates conflict. And that conflict isn't going to be resolved by just standing by and hoping that players change their approach.