I know Sky Ski has 6 attack speed. Fairfrozen, Pinaka, Dragon Faltizan have 7 attack speed. Then I use DPS calculator to compare damages between those spears. And I found out, 99 Sky Ski > 105 Fairforzen > 98 Sky Ski 100 Sky Ski > 106 Fairforzen > 99 Sky Ski 101 Sky Ski > 107 Fairforzen > 100 Sky Ski...etc One problem that confuses me is the prices for fairforzen and pinaka are much cheaper than sky ski. For example, 105 Fairforzen price is so much cheaper than 98 Sky Ski but 105 Fairforzen can do more damage than 98 sky ski on average...etc. Am I missing something ?_?
My assumption is: 1. Sky ski has accuracy 2. Ski only comes from gacha, where as pinaka comes from very often hunted bosses, and fairfrozen from zak/anego/chimera/snowman. 3. All the guides pushes for Sky Ski meta.
I see. I think even with extra accuracy or lower requirement, the price still won't have that big of a difference. Unless I did something wrong with the DPS calculator or the calculator is not accurate. 98 Sky Ski Spoiler 105 Fairfrozen, Pinaka Spoiler 105 pinaka is ~1m. Meanwhile, 98 sky ski is 250m~300m.
Can you try with different attack speeds (also I noticed you can't say "No booster" unless you make attack speed like 8 for 6, only no SI). I was looking at the attack speed in DMG and it goes down by 0.06s for each attack speed increase, but 0.06 difference between 1s and 1.06s is not the same as 0.81s to 0.87s.
I didn't calc anything but did you check scrolled with cgs and with attack pots? The more total attack you get, you get diminishing returns on the weapon's attack, so I assume this is where you get diminishing returns and the weapon speed makes the difference?
Ah, you're right. The damage increases exponentially for faster attack speed when you get more total attack. I added 45 CGS and 98 Sky Ski does more damage than 105 Pinaka.
Well, didn't think that would be a factor. Thanks all for the help. In conclusion, the higher total attack gears you have, the more damage you could get from ski sky or maple pyrope spear. If you only have low attack gears, it's better to get pinaka or falt because it's cheaper with similar damage.
Umm, if a 100 atk ski is just barely stronger than 106 slow spear then a 117 falt is over everything? Seems wrong
We were discussing it recently in my guild. I found different (very old) information on it. Allrhough your conclusions are correct, I think it's a nice moment to math some things out. I am curious as well. The tl;dr is that Ski's are way to expensive but still the best. If correct Ski+Booster Speed = 930 ms Falt+Booster Speed = 990 ms Ski+Booster+SI = 810 ms Falt+Booster+SI = 870 ms Damage increase of Ski with same w.atk: (F°B)/(S°B)-1 = 990/930 = 0.0645 (F°B°SI)/(S°B°SI)-1 = 870/810 = 0.0741 With SI ski's deal 7.4% more dps with the same w.atk You'd be correct to think that a Falt's significantly higher w.atk stat could be actually yield higher dps than a Ski. Nonetheless, when appling with both a perfect Ski and Falt you can see that Ski's still come out on top. SkiVal = (139+90)/810 = 0.283 FaltVal = (152+90)/870 = 0.278 SkiVal/FaltVal -1 = 0.016 For good measure, Let's add 20 atk bfc and 10 atk fs and gelts instead of apples (289/810)/(302/870) -1 = 0.0278 Wich shows that indeed that Ski's yield better effectiveness of adding more w.atk. Note that it is a marginal difference. We could also include damage conversion from STR and DEX. Allthough it would unnecessarily complicate things and presumably follow the same pattern of Ski's yielding better effectiveness. Conclusion: Yes, Ski's are unreasonably expensive compared to the other options. Allthough it's common in any game for BiS gear to be unreasonably expensive. It is true that the other options are very decent options for a lower budget. The money saved can easily buy you gear that give you more dps than a Ski could yield with the same budget Nonetheless the Ski has some other perks such as accuracy that allows you to drop your Dex slighty. Also when you'd be doing other things than bossing and grind mobs for cards or farming 200 etc. for the Ellin Exchange after getting a +Item Drop from the Bosses. 1-hitting 99.9% of all mobs in the game is easily done and much more fun with the Attack Speed of Ski's. tl;dr: Buy Ski's when rich. The other options are very much fine.
Eyo u guys talking bout spears? https://royals.ms/forum/threads/s-7str-101wa-maple-pyrope-spear-1b.210281/#post-1258449
