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but I dont want to be the one bow down to bully
in the pantry stories, we haven't found a solution either.

 

He probably thinks you're AFK at the bottom.
I said "At the entrance", not the other side of the map.

 

cuz the map was taken by me if he tell the truth(by his logical)

 

The path that must be taken, without assumptions and reasoning

 

next time check RG pls

 

but he must passing me if he says true.
why would I have to explain my word time by time...feel like someone was able to reading but refuse to comprehending.
you just keeping telling me I'm worng
but I'm not the one to blame in many regards.
you choose to analysis every possibly flaw of my words, rather than think twice on my side.
was sitting in KrexII on purpose really a nice player should do?

 

He should do that if we are discussing etiquette, cuz you should behave yourself by that.
But why didnt he follow rules if we are not?

 

Said about the wild BOSS and krex different, looking for a BOSS of the same nature, and talk about the size of the map is not the same.
You can always find a reason to convince. You're the best, baby.

 

seems that you also know the situation in RG
when I was buff my chars at gardeners spot, random one rush in garden.wheres the Mother Etiquette at that time?should I be drama post that on forum every week?it happens everyday
thanks to ~mapowner.I got some prove to stand with myself.

 

After thinking a little bit of what I said about Etiquette.
Yeah, he should ask you if you were in the entrance map before him.
This part is what I think is wrong in my understanding of Etiquette.
No difference between the entrance or the other side of the map.
I take what I said this part above back.

I was just sharing my understanding and thoughts on this situation.
Some people have different understandings and disagreements, and that's fine, I could be wrong.
I'm pretty sure the Blacklist owner and the community has a full picture of this incident now and learn from this situation to improve the server and community.
Blacklist owner can decide whatever it is or ask further if she has more questions.

And I want to say it again, I don't know both of you personally, and I don't hate or blame both of you, just sharing thoughts.

 

You are equating two completely different situations. I was sitting at the top of the map, actively moving characters in. And when I saw you, I immediately started telling you that I was there. You have still yet to refuse that this is true.

You are claiming to have been sitting at the bottom of the map for an hour before climbing up the jq. I honestly do not remember if I saw your character there when I first tp-ed to that map on my bishop. I see afk characters scattered around the server all the time, and they do not register to me. Certainly, if you were there and you had told me the channel was taken as I walked past you, I would have left.

I never walked past her between my first and second runs. All my characters stayed at the top of the map between my two runs. If I did walk past her, it would have been before my first run, which was about half an hour before the incident.

You know your argument is weak - by your own admission, you do not believe in it. You are making a bad faith argument and trying to equate your situation with mine in order to make my argument look weak. However, our two situations are not the same at all. You sitting afk at the bottom of the jq for an hour is not at all the same as me sitting at the top, actively moving characters in, and immediately giving you notice of my existence when I see you.

I was pretty annoyed by all this when it happened. I wanted to bring this up to others to see what they thought. I think I've said everything I have to say. I still do believe you deserve to be on the blacklist, but I'll leave that up to the thread owner. Best of luck with your situation at work - I hope you have better access to coffee in the future.

 

idk how to use the multi quote but you can check the pervius page.
your supporter says clearly: It‘s was your duty to ask if there was taken, and you should leave immediately if there was some one there.
you two can have an entire discussion of it.

And the reason why we cant cope with the coffee machine man was that
we don't want to spend a whole day on a cranks.

of course ‘the coffee machine man’ was references to you.
not even he can stay in there for 2.5hrs to disturb others
he was just selfish,but you were despicable.

 

I was almost inclined to agree with you, until i thought about it more and still to a degree, i think the situations are a little different. Hunting for mini-bosses for NX is a little different in the sense that they appear once every X-amount of hours and i would say most people have an unwritten rule on them that they get hunted and you only hold that map if you ~mapowner. With Krex, its always there. All you have to do is switch channel and it'll still be there! Personally, the issue i see with what Casaba did is go into a map, that someone was OUTSIDE of the entrance and said "taken" and still decided to go in. As others have said, you could have cc'd and found an empty channel. If Casaba had no warning, and there was no one outside the entrance, and they went inside and found someone inside that told them to cc, i'd feel a little more sympathy as they would lose a run if they left. But Casaba intentionally ignored someone outside saying "taken" and decided to proceed. If they dc'd for changing channels, you just relog back in! it costs maybe...1 minute of your time? or well in casaba's maybe a few more for all the characters, but it avoids this whole mess theyre now involved in.

 

If he came from the bottom and saw you.

He came out at the entrance portal from top of the map, which means he couldn’t see you at the bottom.

It doesn’t make sense to me that he has to go down to the bottom to check when he already at the top of the entrance platform.

it also doesn’t make sense to me that you refused to leave when he already warned you “taken” at the entrance map and already have characters inside Krex map before you.

 

1> i was waiting for a stable timing to get in krex,not directed against someone, idk when will dc/crush happen.
2>I checked if the map was taken when I check the talking bar( or chat bar

 

so he had not to be polite, but I do, yea
you just assuming I'm not check at the time i found dispute started, then next time ask everyone at the RG entrance pls
In fact ,i trust mapowner more than ppl's talk, precisely and quickly.

 

you can choose to not believe that I did stay at the bottom for an hour
but why you choose to believe almost all the words he said in the same time?
In fact, many people like them are lurking in this server, doing seemingly harmless and unregulated things to disgust others. For example, after seizing a market position, intentionally forcing others merchart hard to reopen, randomly picking up the drops from maps passing by until reminded then carry stolen items and leave with an 'oh there was taken', deceiving lucky beginners to buy things at a price far below market value, and claiming in APQ that whoever hits the box belongs to someone else (previous version before developers redo the bouns map born logic).
People watching from the sidelines will point out that these issues can be solved with Gm alerts, negotiations, and blacklists.They never consider that the players just want to play a game, not play a judgement game with old thugs. And real victims gets no compensate from winning.
they're using this situation, when they're in a debate,they blur the facts against them to gain sympathy, rather than talking about the facts.Pro player can always find their way to claim they were innocent, it's all someone else's fault.they start preaching about morality if the rules don't support them.
so why fake it?If he was not a freak, he wouldn't be here wasting everyone's time with his flawed evidence and contradictory logic chains.he would leave when he saw someone at the bottom or saw ~mapowner, and wont stay in there for 2.5hr long after krex done. He already broken in both rules and morality, so why should others being perfect?