Community Blacklist

Discussion in 'Community' started by Shiratsuyu, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. Geto
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    Guess so.

    anywho, the bwg price was changed to 90m due to sylafia's comment, for me (and for much many) she is the most reliable source of information regarding prices so..

    @Shiratsuyu feel free to share your opinion on the matter.

    This will be my final comment, as it was (as I say anyways, you are free to think otherwise if you see fit) an honest mistake that was fixed within 1 hour of me knowing the price is wrong (If I could i would've changed it instantly but I was sleeping).

    Have a nice Saturday folks.
     
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  2. MitchyD
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    Yeah , definitely a fair price.

    The difference between your situation and the other dude is that you corrected the problem in a respectable way.

    You didn't attack the poster , protest the post and cause unnecessary drama.

    As far as I'm concerned you've atoned and don't deserve to be blacklisted over this.
     
  3. NehZu
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  4. Heidi
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    Fair enough. I don't see any reason to add you to the blacklist in that case. Even though the other guy was a bit rude, I hope you can see some similarity here. What if we had responded to you by saying that we did not believe you, etc? (no need to answer that question, just something to think about).

    This. 100%. And in addition, perhaps any mains that end up on the blacklist would be more likely to be newer players who were less familiar with prices.

    Not only will the shop mules of intentional scammers be regularly culled and replaced, but it's also not likely that anybody who is shopping will check the blacklist before making a purchase. It is far easier to just double check the stats of what you are purchasing. So blacklisting is not protecting anybody.

    I don't see how having shop scamming as a blacklistable offence could act as a deterrent for the behavior either. Those who are aware of the blacklist will probably make anonymous shop mules (that are regularly replaced), and those who are not cannot be deterred by something they are unaware even exists.

    And so, given that the issue is so divisive, and there is so little gain in blacklisting shop mules anyway, I wonder if it would be better to just remove shop scams from the blacklist entirely.

    I am still curious if it's against the TOS though - the scamming rule is a bit vague.
     
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  5. StellarBlade
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    I don't think putting items on the market for over their street price is the sole point of contention here.

    It's pretty scummy to say you're selling "clean bwg" while putting up a 6slot one, regardless the buyers' responsibility to double check what they're buying. At best it's negligence on the seller's part not to double check what they're selling, especially for the said item that's explicitly being advertised.
     
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  6. Shiratsuyu
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  7. Cynn
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    Look at them trying to destroy our culture @Shnang

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  8. Dock
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    IGN: olejookubek
    REASON: leech scammer
    DETAILS: sold 1 hour leech, disconnect 7 mins later, refuse to refund or continue leech.
     
  9. Shiratsuyu
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    Added. If something changes, let me know. ~imboss
     
  10. hvrrxson
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    1. IGN: NewbornSI
    2. REASON: Objectionable Behavior (Disruption) - attempting to kill afk characters
    3. DETAILS: albeit my fault
    for afking in an area where its high traffic during these historic time - I get back from afk and I see "hey" in my chatbox but I see the same player luring mobs to my characters attempting to kill them. I wait a few moments to see if he'll give up but naw mans is INVESTED. I messed up by using darksight cause I really wanted to see how far this was going to go.

    as far as evidence, I couldnt upload anything no matter how much I compressed the file so I used a streamable link to upload this video.
     
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  11. Enticing
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    *Miss* *Miss* *Damage* *Miss* *Shifter**Shifter* *Shifter**Miss* *Miss* *Miss* *Shifter*

    2:30 more of this before he gave up and left. lol
     
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  12. MitchyD
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    The only thing I thought about during that clip was how badly shads deserve a nerf.
     
  13. Heidi
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    You have to see the funny side though. The persistence!

    He would have had no idea you were there and recording ^_^'
     
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  14. Geto
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    I mean, you only lost 4 Power Elixirs, is that really blacklist worthy?

    My guy was persistent and wouldn't take no as an answer!

    Next time be afk with a character that is not a shadower so we will see smth else other than "miss" lul
     
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  15. Apoc_Ellipsis
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    He's already on the blacklist, but adding a second data point, as he tried to steal my stopper map twice.

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  16. EmersonH
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    Maybe he was testing Shad avoidabillity :p
    It's crazy how little you got hit though. Would've taken forever, esp with pot autopot on. Buff stance pls
     
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  17. hvrrxson
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    i potted manually no pets were on during event
     
  18. EmersonH
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    I agree that it's still not nice to deliberately lure monsters into an apparently afk character, even if shad OP. Have you tried asking him why he was doing it?
     
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  19. hvrrxson
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    once i had a chance to stop what i was doing on other windows, i was gonna ask him but he logged. if he's reading or if a snail lets him know that hes been posted in here he can say what he was intentions were
     
  20. NehZu
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    1. IGN: Cloud52
    2. REASON: The dude came into my map, killed, looted
    3. DETAILS:

    This morning I was hunting some Big Foot trying to leech my mules for a while, and this guy came... I usually don't care about these typa freak accidents, someone coming into my map to kill and loot something, I understand it happens from time to time. we usually apologize and resolve the issue with each other...

    But this guy was something else. before the incident happened, I was cc-ing around Twisted Forests with my Bish, I saw this Drk guy with another Bish, I saw him killing bf twice and I cc'd right after that, I knew they were another BF runner that hunting atm, cool. I surfed for a while and finally got my map, parked my mules nearby and I got into it. Suddenly this guy came in, killing mobs around and looting here and there, I waited for him for a while but he lingered and kept attacking mobs. I'm finna stop attacking and holla, he asked "whys a lvl 200 bfing" I was surprised and called him out by asking why did he loot in my map, he asked "your map?" "what r u talking about"...

    This won't be a big fuss for me if that guy said something like 'yeah man, my bad, gl with your shit and now F off' when I confronted him, that's fine at least he get his shit together. But according to him, I was tripping, It was his pet who looted the items, I was the annoying one when he was the guy who came into my map and refused to acknowledge there is a Mapowner system to deal with these types of situations. please stop being like that :admincry:

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    I clicked record twice so I have to edited two clips into one
     

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